Apologies. I mean to be emphatic, but wind up argumentative. I don't want this posters first thread on 2P2 to send him in the wrong direction.


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Saying "fold pre, the end" is about as far from a learning experience this guy will get.

The PFR is fine, the problem is post.

When you raise and get re-raised on the board, what do you beat? I would not have raised post at all, but as played i'm folding anything without a K when I get re-raised except maybe AA, and even that I should be mucking.

The key to playing this type of hand is not pushing it over a cliff. Losing 200 chips of 4300 on a speculative hand is not a problem at this stage, but stacking off on a double paired board with bottom boat is unwise.

Kev said it very well also.

I get what you're saying, and not in total disagreement. Im just a fan personally of opening up your game early when 150bbs deep with the confidence of not going broke with middling holdings. In hopes of maybe hitting a flop hard and getting paid, or getting action later on as being perceived as LAG.

But again, if its not in your range early on OOP, I dont fault anyone for it.

I don't mind opening T9s from early position. I haven't played low lvl nl mtts or any other card games seriously for such a long time so I don't know if the trends are changing. I wouldn't raise that flop lead a large percentage of the time, if at all. A call seems fine. I suppose I'm talking in general, but as a 2+2 poster you probably have a skill advantage, and you don't really need to do anything fancy. Your opponent can turn up with a lot of Kx type hands in their range. I'd play simply and play small ball poker. I hope I don't sound condescending because I don't mean to be. Good luck.
P.S I had a much better worded post prepared but I timeout...

I've deliberately not replied for a couple of days so my post didn't get lost in between all the responses. Thanks for each and every reply, very generous and helpful, makes me very glad I posted this hand in the first place. It's great to see how you all would play it different as in your opinions if the hand should be mucked or played pre flop, but clearly post flop everyone agrees that I played it horrifically, and since you've all explained it well I can certainly see that my post flop play was horrendous here. It's clearly something I need to work on by actually thinking about what I'm doing and the reasoning I have behind each decision instead of just getting carried away and clicking buttons like this hand.

Thanks again


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good attitude to have, good luck in your future tourneys.

Seems to be a lot of differing opinions preflop which is good! My 2 cents is that it's a fine open if you are confident you have an edge postflop vs the players at the table. Although these suited connector hands are at the bottom of you range, if you never open them from EP than it actually may be harder to play a lot of board textures because you can never hit on those mid to low boards often enough to play a variety of streets

Now postflop is a mess. 4 ways I would never feel good about my hand here enough to reraise.

As played, hard to fold the turn as you hit the only card that helps your improve but still not feeling great. Definitely not going AI as you only get called by better or a chop.

In the end, I think you just leveled yourself into believing he had a weaker hand than the obvious. Very rarely will someone get this crazy out of line 4 ways to the flop OOP deep stacked.

Fold to flop donk lead.

He's saying fold pre because he learned something by doing so.
Open is fine unless you think you can play postflop extremely well. I'd open T9s utg 20% of the time on+players at my table etc.

If you're confident in your post flop skills OOP then opening this hand is fine. If you're not then dont open with it.