What are my options in this spot? No real reads on Vill. He had just been moved to the table about 30 hands ago. In that time he had been VERY active. I hadn't seen him go to showdown (apart from one hand he isod a 10BB CO shove from the BTN with KQo). He is platinum star so i'm guessing he's not terrible and is some sort of reg.

His stats over this time were ~28/25 with 28% 3b, but again, this is only over 30 hands. This was his first 3b from the blinds I believe. He had mostly been 3b shoving (due to <20bb stack) or 3bing in pos with similar sizing (due to >20bb stack), none of these hands went to showdown. This is the first time he has 3b me. My image is fairly active. Have been min opening from all positions as standard. Got caught min opening from UTG and double barrelling then folding to a shove on a really dry board. Also min opened KQs UTG, same villain (as in ATs hand) flats behind and then 10bb shorty shoves. I iso when action is back on me and Villain folds claiming he folded AJo and would of won the hand.

Just wanna see how everyone would play this hand and maybe discuss some points for all three options???

snapshove

you are active, he is UBER-active and agressive and opening bvb is the most obv 3bet ever.

I can see him restealing with a ton of stuff here A6,66+,KT+ so you got to ship it since pokerstove agrees.He also doesn't want to

the three options:

fold: next option

call: you dominate his range with a hand that plays very well in position with these stacksizes. the SPR postflop will be low which in this case is a good thing. if both had 100BBs you will end up in very tricky spots where he can barrel or just valuebet better hands and you almost never know if you are good or not. in this case ones we flat the hand plays itself with a FD, TP, good draws and it will play itself when we miss (fold).

4bshove: he might fold a few better hands but not much. you win ~55k without a showdown and will never fold the better hand postflop to cbets, which is btw huge with ~220k stacks.
also it might reduce the 3b% vs you in future spots which is good since we want to do alot of stealing in general and not get played back at.


i'd shove > call >>> fold.

TY for the replies guys, and TYVVVVVVVM to furo this reply, this is what I was looking for.

I guess the standard move is to shove which is what I did. He snapped with JJ, i flopped NFD and lost.

It's not a results orientated post (or atleast that's not what I intended it to be). It's been a while since i've made a deep run in something and really kinda felt like i'd just spewed all my equity away. I also felt pretty uncomfortable playing post flop this deep in a tournament (mostly due to tiredness and the fact i've been grinding turbo 180s), and just wondered that maybe this combination of things made me shove.

I had a few chips left after the hand and said "sick sweat, nh", I said "you were way too active to fold". He said he had been picking up good hands which is why I tried to emphasise the 30 hand sample in the OP.

Thanks to everyone for feedback and special thanks to furo for his post. I lold at the fold option, i obv didn't consider it but some people like to be heros!

Furo nailed it pretty much.

How bout 57500/c? He isn't 3b/f AJ+, 77+ anyway. Why don we 4b/c letting him spew some random A3o, K4s, T6s etc

I have no where near as much insight as the above guys do, but i don't see where ATs is ahead of a 5b jam near enough for this to be a +EV play.

People 3bet a lot bvb. Seems like a straight forward 4bet shove.

shove is standard but if you want to get greedy flat and shove over cbet on every flop (besides the nuts obv)

Why are we 4b shoving? Why not make it 72kish and fold to a shove.