Hello, should i call here with second stack and 100 people left? Or we are commitet? It's very hard to fold here, but maybe call is a very variance decision and i can find better spots to increase my stack...

PokerStars - 1500/3000 Ante 225 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: 23.96 BB (VPIP: 41.67, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 12)
BTN: 49.41 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 8.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 12)
Hero (SB): 95.71 BB
BB: 17.96 BB (VPIP: 10.53, PFR: 5.26, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 19)
UTG: 59.9 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 12)
UTG+1: 33.41 BB (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 12)
MP: 91.03 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6)
MP+1: 73.12 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 8.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 12)

8 players post ante of 0.08 BB, Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.1 BB) Hero has J A

fold, fold, MP raises to 2.5 BB, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 6 BB, fold, MP calls 3.5 BB

Flop: (13.6 BB, 2 players) 9 T K
Hero bets 6 BB, MP raises to 84.95 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 78.95 BB

Turn: (183.5 BB, 2 players) T

River: (183.5 BB, 2 players) A

Hero shows J A (Two Pair, Aces and Tens)
(Pre 29%, Flop 47%, Turn 25%)
MP shows K A (Two Pair, Aces and Kings)
(Pre 71%, Flop 53%, Turn 75%)
MP wins 183.5 BB

holy ****, you have a monster stack at a decent point of the tourney and butting heads with another mnster stack.

The flop is a fold for sure, just not getting right odds to call here at all. If it was smaller then yeah sure but its 79bb into 104bb pot.

Also you have 6 hands with vil, are we happy to 3b here out of position? Whats your plan if vil 4bets to 15bb, you're now playing massive pot opp against the only really player that can cause drastic dmg to our stack.

U are right Played really bad here.. I am folding on a 4bet... I made a 3bet because i was on sb and dont want to just call on sb...

You are calling 79 BBs to win 104.5. This is a very -EV play. I can see calling this off with a much smaller stack being good despite not having the odds just so you can start to build a big stack for a deep run though.

More pre, more on flop. Honestly not sure what to do here LOL. Prob call since he can't have many QJ here given sizing and we still have a gutter to the nutters along with our flush draw. It's pretty close tho.

Very strongly agree with that. Pre is especially troublesome as he's calling w 100% of his openingrange which is not *that* great when we're playing OOP as 2nd CL vs another bigstack.

I wouldn't sya he's calling 100% but yeah we need to go more tho still regardless.

easy fold on the flop at best he has the hand he had. At worst you only have a flush draw, which may not even be good if board pairs (If he had a set)

Well with the odds he's getting he at least shouldn't fold any hand he's opening with

These are normal 3b sizes I don't know why everyone thinks going 6x vs a 2.5x is so small.

We're almost 100BB deep and OOP, I wouldn't call a 2,4x 3-b anywhere near standard

Ok well I'm not going to beat a dead horse here since it's useless. Should just jam cause then their pot odds will be terrible and they can only continue with the top of their range duh my bad. Sure maybe you can make it like 8x pre but it's not even that big of a diff jfc.

Nah, shipping or going 8x would probably be suboptimal.
But there's a reason we choose certain sizings preflop which obviously depend on certain factors like position and stacksizes.
If we were like 25bb deep I wouldn't mind our sizing that much. But as we have the positional disadvantage and are 90bb deep we don't want his odds to be like 25% to flat, giving him immediate odds to call every hand in his openingrange, making his potential 4-b-bluffs very cheap and leaving us oop against a very wide range and a bit of an award spr for getting the chips in over 3 streets.

So yeah, all in all it's a substantial mistake to choose this sizing pre because it's detrimental to the goals we want to achieve with our hand at that position, stacksizes and phase of the tournament.

I was being facetious saying to just jam obviously. Thanks for condescendingly explaining how adjusting raise sizes works though through tournaments lol.

Ho boy. Let's just stop this here.

Call pre and go from there.