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10-09-2016 , 08:33 AM

artkeller

stranger

Join Date: Sep 2016 Posts: 3

(Tournament live) 800-1600
Hero CO: OR 98sh 2800 (70K)
Button: call
BB: QQ (fish old man)3bets x3 (60K)
Hero: call
Button: call

Flop: 10h 7h 2s
BB: bets 3/4 pot
Hero: raise x3.5
Button:folds
BB: calls

Turn: 5s
Bb: donks all in
Hero: calls.

The old man push me a pot but i plays random.
Later i think it was a bad call...

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10-11-2016 , 08:46 AM

wowsooooted

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 5,077

yes just fold everywhere

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10-11-2016 , 09:50 AM

DrLifeIsGood

adept

Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 751

I dont understand the HH. How can you raise to 2800 when blinds are 800-1600? How much did the old man raise? Did me make it 3x (3 BBs) or did he make it 3 x your raise (8400 or what assume should be 9600)? If he min-3bet oop, the call is fine and I would just call the flop. If he made it 8400-9600 (6 BBs), you should just fold pre on 38x effective stacks. Calling 3bets wide is not how you exploit a tight old man. That's how he exploits you.

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10-16-2016 , 05:43 AM

BlaqShiep

stranger

Join Date: Sep 2016 Posts: 13

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Originally Posted by artkeller

Its hard to answer because we dont have the necessary info to calculate pot odds... at least for your turn call. Raising a fish with a draw is almost never the correct play.

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10-17-2016 , 06:30 AM

Glaciem

old hand

Join Date: Mar 2016 Posts: 1,830

We have an open ended straight flush draw, i would be happy c/jammin flop, even if he has an over pair we have such good %, infact against 2 black queens we are favorite to win the hand

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10-17-2016 , 06:55 AM

Puzo

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 3,657

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Originally Posted by Glaciem

We have an open ended straight flush draw, i would be happy c/jammin flop, even if he has an over pair we have such good %, infact against 2 black queens we are favorite to win the hand

We have oesd OTF and didn't improve on the turn.

Pre is close. Fold everywhere after that.

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10-17-2016 , 07:39 AM

Glaciem

old hand

Join Date: Mar 2016 Posts: 1,830

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Originally Posted by Puzo

We have oesd OTF and didn't improve on the turn.

Pre is close. Fold everywhere after that.

I'm folding turn for sure but after vil bets flop

theres 44,100 in the middle after vil best 3/4 with vil leaving himself with 32,700 so why can't we GII on the flop against him with the draw from heaven???

*EDIT*

Its 8s 9h not 89h i thought it was 89 suited hearts (sh)

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10-18-2016 , 04:46 PM

jake0518

centurion

Join Date: May 2016 Posts: 116

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Originally Posted by BlaqShiep

Its hard to answer because we dont have the necessary info to calculate pot odds... at least for your turn call. Raising a fish with a draw is almost never the correct play.

I agree. You have to play ABC with someone that can only understand ABC. Well, for the most part.

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10-24-2016 , 10:58 PM

Pokerisfu

journeyman

Join Date: Oct 2016 Posts: 361

Yes it's a bad call we should be folding when he goes all in

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