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10-18-2014 , 09:26 PM

TheGodson

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Final table of a 6max MTT, The buy-in was $5.55 + $0.50 with 32 some people I believe.
Blinds are $1000/$500

I hold A

with $47,059.70 (47BBs) and am sitting UTG

Preflop:
I open $2,400
2 folds
Button with 50BBs calls
SB with 43BBs calls
BB folds

Flop($8,200) 8

SB checks
I bet $3,900
Button folds
SB calls

Turn($16,000) 8

SB checks
I bet $12,000
SB shoves all-in

Unfortunately I call and run into 8

. I feel like I probably should have folded this, but somehow convinced myself that he might do this with AT, AJ, or some wild drawish bluff. Thoughts?

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10-18-2014 , 09:45 PM

The_Worm

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I think the turn bet is too big - even with FD on board. As played I'm prob folding turn. You look pretty strong here and I don't think he's jamming AJ/AT. Maybe he has QJhh or JThh here sometimes but mostly it's exactly what he has ie sets or A9s, A8s.

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10-18-2014 , 10:36 PM

Viral25

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I'd say slightly bigger otf, a lot smaller ott, ~8k. I dont even mind checking that turn vs an agressive opponent, that 9 is pretty much the nut semibluffing card.

Better to not post results btw.

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10-18-2014 , 10:58 PM

smokybacon

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Snap fold turn.

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10-18-2014 , 11:02 PM

JJH_1981

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As others stated, I would bet smaller OTT.

Villain dependent as far as calling his shove but gotta lean fold unless you have some sick read that he is capable of doing this with air or AJ.

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10-19-2014 , 01:17 PM

Sorin

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+ 1 to smaller bet OTT (~7500).. in case we face a raise it`s easier to fold and we save some chips.

any reads on your opponent? even i don`t like it, it`s a fold OTT most of the time, unless you`re facing some kind of fish wich overplays his TP or a very agressive opponent wich is capable of doing this with a bluff/semibluff...

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10-19-2014 , 01:30 PM

nonsimplesimon

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If I'm not bf ott then I'd xb and cc a reasonable bet otr.

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10-20-2014 , 10:05 PM

HUHandEH

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Flop bet, I guess check turn, but it`s close. I mean what is going to continue OTF, I`ve seen airballs like this, but not a lot.

You see, you checked turn, so instead of me suggesting you should bet fold, I am curious as to why you checked.

Something tells me that you are a good player and you already know the answer to the my question, I just want to know why you checked as opposed to bet.

Last edited by HUHandEH; 10-20-2014 at 10:07 PM. Reason: Only really good thinking players check here....and I think you suck so tell me why you checked:) just jokin about the suck

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10-20-2014 , 10:44 PM

JJH_1981

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Originally Posted by HUHandEH

He didn't check the turn.

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10-20-2014 , 11:08 PM

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all_in_pockets

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your bet sizing is too big ott like others have said, , 1/3 of the pot would do the job , folding to the raise is the way forward imo!

what hands do you beat here when V shoves? very unlikely hands like AJ/AT would be played like this. maybe v could have draws in their range llike JhTh which he's playing aggressively , never the less , villian has shown real strength here. i think folding to the shove is okay unless you had reads that v is capable of shoving with worse or if he's really aggro with his draws and has a high bluffing frequency.

tough spot for sure , but i'd fold.

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10-20-2014 , 11:56 PM

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HUHandEH

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OOPS

Sorry I misread the hand

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10-22-2014 , 10:50 PM

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TheGodson

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I thought about checking. Keeps the pot at a safer size and also opens my opponent up to bluffing the river where I can call off. Or if he checks river I can value bet. I decided to bet turn instead.

My turn raise was too big. The reason I bet so big was, because I was hoping he would think I had a flush draw, because maybe he'd think I'd bet smaller with a value hand and shove on me lighter. Basically I was thinking about stuff that wasn't happening and made a bad call.

Even against an overly hopeful turn-shoving range of 99-66, A6+, Suited broadway, 87s, 76s, I'm still in not that great of shape.

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10-23-2014 , 01:18 AM

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killer_kill

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Originally Posted by smokybacon

Snap fold turn.

Why a snap fold?

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10-23-2014 , 11:51 AM

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JJH_1981

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Originally Posted by smokybacon

Snap fold turn.

I need to play more poker with you nits if you're automatically snap folding AQ on an non-flush non-paired ace-high board. You would be very easy to exploit.

So many people here see that the guy had a set and it's a snap fold. That's why sharing results is a bad idea.

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10-23-2014 , 11:57 AM

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CrunkMonkey

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Originally Posted by JJH_1981

yeah, nobody ever folds to me here when I have jthh or w/e

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