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07-27-2016 , 12:35 PM

DollarWill

grinder

Join Date: Jul 2016 Posts: 414

Poker Stars, $3 Buy-in (20/40 blinds, 5 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37401691

BB: 4,877 (121.9 bb)
UTG: 3,638 (91 bb)
MP: 8,900 (222.5 bb)
CO: 1,057 (26.4 bb)
BTN: 2,930 (73.3 bb)
Hero (SB): 5,598 (140 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A

UTG raises to 120, 3 folds, Hero calls 100, BB folds

Flop: (310) Q

(2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets 200, Hero calls 200

Turn: (710) T

(2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets 640, Hero calls 640

River: (1,990) Q

(2 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks

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Do we think I should be leading out on the river here, or check-raising, and letting him bet with his value 2-pair hands/air? At the time I thought to lead the river is playing my hand very face-up, and he has very few hands which would be calling a bet on the end, and more combinations of hands which would be betting the river (meaning I could extract more value).

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07-27-2016 , 07:58 PM

nomalice

old hand

Join Date: Oct 2014 Posts: 1,653

. if i dont raise turn i lead river for sure... he will x back probably everything that aint Q and that is pretty miserable part of his range... i would probably make it like 40% OTR.

u re missing a lot of value when checking river.. he has a lot more hands that will call your river lead but will x back 100% of the time

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07-28-2016 , 03:17 AM

Glaciem

old hand

Join Date: Mar 2016 Posts: 1,830

^Agree

Lead river.

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07-28-2016 , 04:34 AM

Fergdog

adept

Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 864

Lead river absolutely, the Q coming can make villain think you're less likely to have one and he'll call wider, with lots of pairs etc. He's also less likely to bet the river for the chance that you do have a Q. I think a healthy bet of around 1100 is pretty likely to get a call..

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07-28-2016 , 05:32 AM

DollarWill

grinder

Join Date: Jul 2016 Posts: 414

Cheers guys. yeh at the time I really wasn't sure about raising the turn and taking control of the betting (and leading the river), or to check-call, and check-raise 5th street. I can definitely see how leading the river is going to be more profitable now.

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07-28-2016 , 06:13 AM

DutchCourage

adept

Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 831

Problem with not leading here is if V decides to bet big on this river, you have no idea where you are as both a flush and a boat are well in range. I think a value bet on this river serves the dual purpose of a blocking bet.

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07-29-2016 , 05:39 AM

furo

deviation of equilibrium

Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 29,639

Jam River doh

WP overall OP. Also dont show results.

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07-30-2016 , 07:51 AM

BicycleRepairMan

journeyman

Join Date: Dec 2014 Posts: 359

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Originally Posted by nomalice

If you raise trun what worse hands are calling you and what better are folding?

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08-03-2016 , 03:40 PM

nomalice

old hand

Join Date: Oct 2014 Posts: 1,653

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Originally Posted by BicycleRepairMan

If you raise trun what worse hands are calling you and what better are folding?

i missread hand in that part,tought turn is Q, turn raise is dumb in this case

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