Small Stakes MTT Discussion and analysis of small stakes MTT strategy
01-31-2012, 08:11 AM
#1
newbie
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 22
AK in 4-bet pot
Poker Stars, $5 Buy-in (6,000/12,000 blinds, 1,200 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 8 Players
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CO: 441,194 (36.8 bb)
BTN: 216,486 (18 bb)
SB: 476,808 (39.7 bb)
Hero (BB): 588,369 (49 bb)
UTG+2: 204,096 (17 bb)
MP1: 305,992 (25.5 bb)
MP2: 396,600 (33.1 bb)
MP3: 437,735 (36.5 bb)
Preflop : Hero is BB with A
K
UTG+2 folds ,
MP1 raises to 24,000 , 4 folds,
SB raises to 60,000 ,
Hero raises to 114,568 ,
MP1 folds , SB calls 54,568
Flop : (262,736) 5
Q
T
(2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks
Turn : (262,736) 3
(2 players)
SB bets 78,820 ,
Hero folds
Spoiler :
Results: 262,736 pot
Final Board: 5
Q
T
3
SB mucked and won 262,736 (146,968 net)
Hero mucked A
K
and lost (-115,768 net)
I have been very active the past few orbits and haven't been to showdown. Villian in the SB has made a few 3 bets and seems to know what he is doing.
01-31-2012, 12:04 PM
#2
newbie
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 49
Re: AK in 4-bet pot
Ye AKs is a monster especially 40bb deep I see no problem getting it in here standard.
02-01-2012, 01:36 PM
#3
adept
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 767
Re: AK in 4-bet pot
He probably has a monster but I'd like to hear what others think.
02-01-2012, 01:41 PM
#4
veteran
Join Date: Mar 2011
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Re: AK in 4-bet pot
In a $5 tourney I would probably ship pre. If it was a $20+ online tourney I might call pre.
02-02-2012, 07:53 AM
#5
journeyman
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 343
Re: AK in 4-bet pot
Not cbetting this wet flop after 4betting seems pretty weak, you got 2 overs bd fd and a gutshot.
cbet and get it in / call if raised imo
02-02-2012, 07:56 AM
#6
veteran
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Re: AK in 4-bet pot
145678/call pre
as played b/c flop 125Kish
02-02-2012, 10:35 AM
#7
banned
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 5,043
Re: AK in 4-bet pot
yes, 4bet bigger to ~140k or shove.
Bet flop as played.
02-02-2012, 11:53 AM
#8
centurion
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 172
Re: AK in 4-bet pot
You have to bet this flop texture vs any competent villain. Think about it - you would c-bet any value hand even the very top of your range (sets, two pair) On This board wouldn't you? A competent villain knows that. By checking behind you are effectively giving up on the pot and letting villain bet his entire range on the turn to take it down.
The only time I would ever consider checking this flop is vs the very very lagtard/maniac opponents where you will likely get check raised bluffed off your hand. In that situation it is best to try to take a card and hit.
02-02-2012, 01:15 PM
#9
Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 4,338
Re: AK in 4-bet pot
+1 for 4b bigger and jam flops with psb.
As played, b/c. overs, gutter, bdfd is good enough with spr < 2
02-02-2012, 01:22 PM
#10
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Re: AK in 4-bet pot
Main point is when you check flop in 4bet pot w/ initiative you turning your hand face up. What else would you 4bet pre and check otf, except AxKx...
Though, I`m unsure if it`s b/c as played.
Very little equity we have in 4 bet pot vs someone competent. Mostly we`d have 3 outs.
02-02-2012, 08:39 PM
#11
journeyman
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Escazu, Costa Rica
Posts: 378
Re: AK in 4-bet pot
u can C/bet the flop less than what u 4bet to and i doubt he "has a monster" bc he would have gotten it in pre .. I C/bet small and reevaluate a call
02-03-2012, 07:24 AM
#12
adept
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: afraid to press the call button
Posts: 1,026
Re: AK in 4-bet pot
I'd bet big this flop, but it's a fold if he raises. Every out we have must come as a non-spade so we can have implied odds
02-03-2012, 08:41 AM
#13
Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 4,338
Re: AK in 4-bet pot
You cant b/f this flop.
Do the math - if you bet like 100k and he shoves your calling ~262k to win ~1m. We must have that much equity given that he has some draws and just tp hands.
02-03-2012, 11:17 AM
#14
Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Mar 2005
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Posts: 4,864
Re: AK in 4-bet pot
Raise bigger pre and cbet is mandatory here (we are never raise folding so we can). Probably can shove flop if we raise bigger pre.
02-03-2012, 11:30 AM
#15
adept
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: afraid to press the call button
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Re: AK in 4-bet pot
If we can not fold then why we bet?
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