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AA hand limp pre, get shoved on turn. Big fish in BB. AA hand limp pre, get shoved on turn. Big fish in BB.
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02-26-2017 , 11:26 AM
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HustlerMert
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Been an very aggressive table so i decide to limp in with AA. something i rarely do, but hey, when table is very aggressive why not.

And my worst nightmare came true, Biggest shock was the BB didn't come for a raise.
Should we fold when he jams here? I think he would have raised pre with KQ, but he could have anything....

    Poker Stars, $4 Buy-in (250/500 blinds, 50 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

    SB: 7,083 (14.2 bb)
    BB: 32,086 (64.2 bb)
    UTG+1: 11,820 (23.6 bb)
    Hero (UTG+2): 20,776 (41.6 bb)
    MP1: 20,296 (40.6 bb)
    MP2: 21,394 (42.8 bb)
    MP3: 6,100 (12.2 bb)
    CO: 29,037 (58.1 bb)
    BTN: 27,390 (54.8 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with A A
    UTG+1 folds, Hero calls 500, 6 folds, BB checks

    Flop: (1,700) 4 K 4 (2 players)
    BB checks, Hero bets 850, BB calls 850

    Turn: (3,400) Q (2 players)
    BB checks, Hero bets 1,700, BB raises to 5,900, Hero calls 4,200

    River: (15,200) 6 (2 players)
    BB bets 24,786 and is all-in, Hero calls 13,476 and is all-in

    Spoiler:
    Results: 42,152 pot
    Final Board: 4 K 4 Q 6
    BB showed 4 2 and won 42,152 (21,376 net)
    Hero showed A A and lost (-20,776 net)
    AA hand limp pre, get shoved on turn. Big fish in BB. Quote
    02-26-2017 , 07:14 PM
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    spand42
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    I've never seen the attraction with limping AA because when you raise, your hand becomes face up.

    This spot is really tough imo because his range is literally any two cards, apart from big premiums.

    To be honest if I was in the BB, I would just be tempted to check KQ preflop, so I'd definitely have this as part of his range.

    When a fish goes for a trappy aggro line like this, it's basically always the nuts so I would just fold to the turn raise.


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    02-26-2017 , 07:20 PM
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    Letting BB come along for free I would actually be more worried about a random 4 than KQ there. That's the risk with not raising - you literally have no idea what your opponent could be holding.
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    02-26-2017 , 07:31 PM
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Darth_Maul
    Letting BB come along for free I would actually be more worried about a random 4 than KQ there. That's the risk with not raising - you literally have no idea what your opponent could be holding.


    +1. It's God's way of explaining why rockets should not be limped pre.
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    02-26-2017 , 08:01 PM
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    obv bb has more 4x hands in his range than you have but its kind of tough to comment on this hand because of pre. just always play a raise or fold strat pre (unless some player limped/raised in front of you). as played i guess id just check turn tbh.
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    02-26-2017 , 09:53 PM
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    Quote:
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    +1. It's God's way of explaining why rockets should not be limped pre.
    I agree, it's not something I do often, but when table is aggressive I think it's quite nice from time to time.

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    02-27-2017 , 03:53 AM
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by HustlerMert
    I agree, it's not something I do often, but when table is aggressive I think it's quite nice from time to time.

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    It's so face up though - if the table is aggro it usually means they're better than average and they'll pick up on stuff like that.
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    02-27-2017 , 04:08 AM
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by HustlerMert
    I agree, it's not something I do often, but when table is aggressive I think it's quite nice from time to time.

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    It's so face up though - if the table is aggro it usually means they're better than average and they'll pick up on stuff like that.
    Its only face up if your limping range just consist of aces.

    If you include some other hands then its balanced at least and for sure not face up.
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    02-27-2017 , 04:38 AM
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    Quote:
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    Its only face up if your limping range just consist of aces.



    If you include some other hands then its balanced at least and for sure not face up.


    Exactly but you have to limp a bunch of other crap to make this work.

    Never limping is much easier.
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    02-27-2017 , 04:45 AM
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    Quote:
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    Exactly but you have to limp a bunch of other crap to make this work.

    Never limping is much easier.


    It's not the limping but the limp/reraise that is face up. I don't see how you would balance that.
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