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03-04-2015 , 09:43 AM
Both blinds are typical one tabling droolers. SB is playing 33/17 (17h) and BB 35/13 (17h). Its only second level of play, but I have been aggro so far, mostly because I am getting good cards and my image must be very lag, but obv they have as limited sample as I at this point.

My stats are 44/29 and I have already 3-betted twice, but only of hand I have shown is JJ which I raised and c-bet, c/c and river went check check in AhTh9c8h2d where I had JhJd.

I don't like my flop sizing very much, because if they have a draw or A or weaker K they are paying more and if not they aren't prolly calling at all. Turn is not the best card of the deck, but I still like to barrel, because they both can easily have worse. Should have made the turn bet bigger too., but I am lazy sob sometimes when having a lot of tables. I am obv betting river and don't plan to fold vs any action, but what is the best sizing?


[converted_hand][hand_history]Poker Stars, $8 Buy-in (15/30 blinds) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #35345961

SB: 2,970 (99 bb)
BB: 3,605 (120.2 bb)
UTG: 2,427 (80.9 bb)
MP: 1,315 (43.8 bb)
CO: 4,315 (143.8 bb)
Hero (BTN): 3,523 (117.4 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with K 9
3 folds, Hero raises to 75, SB calls 60, BB calls 45

Flop: (225) A K K (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets 123, SB calls 123, BB calls 123

Turn: (594) J (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets 326, SB calls 326, BB calls 326

River: (1,572) 9 (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks,
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03-04-2015 , 10:06 AM
Tough to say, your opponents have wide range all the way. If one of them was on flush draw, he might pay off even if you shove here.

If you bet half-pot or so, better chances that both call. But... how much would they call overall, tough to say.

You already stated it but it would be very nice if you had managed to build bigger pot, so both might call about pot sized shove here.

EDIT: Like, 180 on the flop -> two calls -> 540+225 =765; 600 on the turn -> 1800 + 765 = 2565 and you have bit over pot left of your stack.
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03-04-2015 , 10:14 AM
I think potsize is the best size. Looks more like a bluff then a push. One of them has a Flush and he WILL pay it. Maybe other one has a K and calls also. Push looks like nuts to me.
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03-04-2015 , 03:25 PM
I know the general principle is to aim for stacks with a monster but I find it hard to think that either has a flush here - there are quite a few more Ax combos that will always call preflop than combos which might or might not esp as three good clubs are on the board. Also even a weak passive player might well lead with a flush here. There are Kx and QTs that will call more but I might size it so that an A that has come this far can call -£1k? This would still leave the caller with a playable stack. I'm bearing in mind that a weak ace doesn't have to worry much about kickers on this board so they will be wary of being bluffed off a chopped pot.
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03-04-2015 , 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by oldgoat
I might size it so that an A that has come this far can call -£1k? This would still leave the caller with a playable stack. I'm bearing in mind that a weak ace doesn't have to worry much about kickers on this board so they will be wary of being bluffed off a chopped pot.
I think this is the most important consideration given Villains' ranges. Because of card removal, very rarely do they have Kx. They're going to have Ax a lot of the time. re: flushes, those are gii 90% of the time anyway so doesn't matter what our sizing is here vs. those hands. I think only a competent Villain would just call with a flush otr.

I would bet 575-650. Obv. Villains are pretty bad to call any bet size with Ax otr, but I think this is the upper bound of what Villain(s) would call with those hands. They would really have to be especially ******ed to call a bomb here with Ax -- I don't care how aggro your image is. But it's ultimately pretty V-dependent -- as horrible as it is for Vs to call off a jam here, if I thought there was any chance they could be hero-y and my table image is seriously aggro and I think they are capable of sensing that, I don't mind a jam here as it doesn't need to work very often at all to be profitable. But in general I'm going with this smallish sizing^.

The only downside to ^this bet is missed value from QT, which is probably calling any bet size, but not raising.
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