We are on 4handed on the last 13 players.

Open was a 24/24/44 (VPIP/PFR/R1st) with 21 hands. The reshove was from a 32/33/55 with a 7% 3bet with 55 hands.

Against this kind of a re-shove, do you call/fold every day??? What do you think?

[converted_hand][hand_history]Party, $4.55 Buy-in (600/1,200 blinds, 125 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 4 Players
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SB: 55,721 (46.4 bb)
CO: 25,475 (21.2 bb)
Hero (BB): 53,252 (44.4 bb)
BTN: 10,439 (8.7 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J J
CO raises to 2,400, BTN folds, SB raises to 55,596 and is all-in, Hero ???

calling, even though icm prolly says it's a fold.

Snap wtf. It's not FT^

calling

Even tough the other replies say it's an easy call, for me it's not that easy. The re-shover seems to be quite loose agressive but for me this big 44BB openshove smells like something really strong.
Unless you know that Villain is a real fish/donk who tends to 3bet-shove a lot of hands with 40BB+ this calls seems quite hard for me.
If I characterize Villains as "regular" or somewhat "solid" I would say that his range in this spot is quite strong; something like AK/AQs and TT+ maybe even JJ+.
Also if I see the hand from CO view: He has 21BB left so I don't really think that he'll be openraising that much of crap. Of course he has some more marginal holdings in his range but if SB is a thinking player he also knows that and this just underlines my opinion that he has a real strong holding here against which you flip most of times or even are dominated (QQ+).

Maybe I am leveling here a bit to much but I think the fold is denitely reasonable here as you got no real clue of Villains 3bet-shoving range. Personally I don't know if I ever could lay this type of hand down in this spot but thinking a bit about it the fold is very acceptable, too.

I don't think I'm folding this unless I knew V had a tight 3-bet shoving range.


when sb 3-bet shoves here , it seems like they'll do with hands that don't want to see a flop with prolly pairs like 66+ and AQs+.

@ birdrail , I also agree with what you have said above , you have to consider your opponents tendencies/dynamics/hand ranges all into account.

When SB shoves though , it's rather unlikely they 3-bet shove with QQ+ , they'll either 3-bet or flat if anything.

they could quite possibly shove here though with 88+ and AQs+ which we are ahead off.

Depends on the payouts, but given a relatively tight shoving range of 88+,ATs+,KJs+,AQo+ you still have 54% equity. Hence only if ICM matters can this be a fold. Please note that SB is largely shoving against CO who has a smaller effective stack.

Prolly open for 2700 then call.

Fold

Woudnt be folding here

Did not fold!!! But lost to TT !!! Next...

Call. We see much more medium to semistrong holdinds than blade here. Villain is most likely isoing vs shortie and somehow didn't want to make a standard 3b which would have been a lot better play.

Cheers for that!


This is an easy call.

As for the CO , it really depends on how tight you think he's opening, likely to be a open raise with a wider range from LP though. When sb shoves, i'd say AJs+ 88+ , maybe wider.