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05-28-2017 , 11:04 AM
It's time to get rid of one of my major leaks. I know that 4 hands could be too many for one post but they're pretty similar so I decided it would be better to gather them in one place.

#1
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    Poker Stars, $6.82 Buy-in (700/1,400 blinds, 175 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 8 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

    Hero (SB): 40,692 (29.1 bb)
    BB: 35,732 (25.5 bb)
    UTG+2: 9,618 (6.9 bb)
    MP1: 72,819 (52 bb)
    MP2: 61,104 (43.6 bb)
    MP3: 11,290 (8.1 bb)
    CO: 50,848 (36.3 bb)
    BTN: 14,310 (10.2 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with A K
    4 folds, CO raises to 3,150, BTN folds, Hero raises to 8,400, BB folds, CO calls 5,250

    Flop: (19,600) T 6 Q (2 players)
    Hero checks, CO checks

    Turn: (19,600) 9 (2 players)
    Hero checks, CO checks

    River: (19,600) 6 (2 players)
    Hero checks, CO bets 21,000, Hero folds



    The only extraordinary thing in V's stats was his low fold to 3bet, but it could be a sample issue.
    On this flop I think I should bet most of my flushes (should check some combos like AsKs if I want to leave my checking range uncapped), all sets and overpairs without a spade. Hands like KK(?)/AA with a spade could be checked sometimes, not sure if 100% of the time tho. With this holding, I don't accomplish much by betting since I definitely don't have a valuebet here and not many better combos will fold so I can easily put it in my check/calling range.
    Turn card is bad for my hand and pretty ok for his range so there's still no point in betting. Depending on his potential bet size it could be a check/call or check/fold, I'm pretty sure he won't be floating lightly in this spot.
    I don't think I can bluff river if I checked him twice before so it's pretty clear check/fold for me. Do you think my line is too weak?

    #2
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      Poker Stars, $6.82 Buy-in (300/600 blinds, 75 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
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      SB: 30,801 (51.3 bb)
      Hero (BB): 23,519 (39.2 bb)
      UTG+1: 32,272 (53.8 bb)
      UTG+2: 24,664 (41.1 bb)
      MP1: 29,652 (49.4 bb)
      MP2: 8,207 (13.7 bb)
      MP3: 5,481 (9.1 bb)
      CO: 10,820 (18 bb)
      BTN: 33,779 (56.3 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is BB with A K
      2 folds, MP1 calls 600, 3 folds, BTN calls 600, SB raises to 1,200, Hero raises to 4,200, MP1 folds, BTN calls 3,600, SB folds

      Flop: (10,875) 5 3 7 (2 players)
      Hero checks, BTN checks

      Turn: (10,875) 8 (2 players)
      Hero checks, BTN bets 4,800, Hero folds



      Preflop is pretty standard. I perceive BTN's (20/5) range as pocket pairs (22-77 maybe?) + broadways + suited connectors, maybe A2-A8 type of hands too. I clearly can't make a valuebet here, but this is a hand where I think it's too weak to play like I did. I'm still ahead of his whole range so if I check/fold AK, even with Kh, here, I let him win tons of chips by bluffing every hand that he missed here and there could be plenty of combos of them in his range. So IMO, despite that he has a fair amount of hands that his this board, I gotta check/call this at least once.


      #3
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        Poker Stars, $6.82 Buy-in (25/50 blinds, 6 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 5 Players
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        SB: 3,148 (63 bb)
        BB: 3,964 (79.3 bb)
        MP: 925 (18.5 bb)
        CO: 4,845 (96.9 bb)
        Hero (BTN): 5,118 (102.4 bb)

        Preflop: Hero is BTN with J A
        MP folds, CO raises to 125, Hero raises to 400, 2 folds, CO calls 275

        Flop: (905) K 6 5 (2 players)
        CO checks, Hero checks

        Turn: (905) 4 (2 players)
        CO checks, Hero bets 350, CO calls 350

        River: (1,605) 4 (2 players)
        CO checks, Hero ?



        V's stats were pretty loose but this is 6max and I think 100% of his hands that I had tracked were from this tourney. 3betting AJo here for value is ok I think.
        We don't hit the flop and villain's perceived range is ahead of us so I don't think it's a good idea to check down this hand.
        Checking the flop seems ok though, because I could do this with AK, KK and hands like TT(or JJ)-QQ. My two questions are:
        1) should we bet more on the turn in this 3bet pot to maximize folding equity?
        I think it's enough.
        2) the river is pretty bad for bluffing, can we stop here? I don't think so since we rarely win at showdown and if villain can think he should draw a conclusion that calling marginal hands here would generate him negative profit (lol at this definition)

        #4
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          Poker Stars, $2 Buy-in (70/140 blinds, 21 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
          Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

          SB: 6,133 (43.8 bb)
          BB: 4,616 (33 bb)
          UTG+1: 9,653 (69 bb)
          Hero (UTG+2): 6,474 (46.2 bb)
          MP1: 4,021 (28.7 bb)
          MP2: 6,877 (49.1 bb)
          MP3: 6,697 (47.8 bb)
          CO: 18,907 (135.1 bb)
          BTN: 2,740 (19.6 bb)

          Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with A J
          UTG+1 folds, Hero raises to 350, 3 folds, CO calls 350, 3 folds

          Flop: (1,099) 3 T 9 (2 players)
          Hero bets 384, CO calls 384

          Turn: (1,867) 3 (2 players)
          Hero checks, CO bets 1,288, Hero folds


          Again, not much info on opponent. I think it's kinda tough because by betting we can make him fold better hands + we still can improve, but he could call with some floats like broadways and I'm not comfortable making a second barrel here. I think this is the spot I need most discussion on, because I'm pretty confident with the conclusions that I've drawn in previous hands.

          Waiting for your replies.
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          05-29-2017 , 06:29 PM
          No3:

          Your turn bet is too small for that buy-in level vs a loose player. if you have good reads on him you can bet big to steal the pot at river.
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          05-29-2017 , 10:45 PM
          Hand 1 bet the flop with two overs gssd and K flush draw. As played certainly bet the turn.

          Hand 2 and 3cmake your sizings bigger and cbet.

          Hand 4 again bets too small. I think the fold ott is ok.

          Basically you're playing fit or fold post flop when you show aggression pre. I pretty much cbet in three and four bet pots unless it's way wet and multi way. Also the 1/3 cbets is just to small. Would you bet that way if you had the nuts? At a minimum do 40%
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          05-31-2017 , 12:24 PM
          Hand 1, cbet the flop and gii if raised with big draw and nut no pair. Cbet hands 2 and 3. Particularly, 3, there is a Kxx,r flop, which is ideal for cbetting. Hand 4 is OK, but I might just c/f the mid card flop.

          In general, your postflop play seems weak. Hands 1 and 3 are bad weak/tight.
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