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Old 07-04-2012, 11:28 AM   #1
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$4.40: KJo Facing Weird C/R OTR vs Station

Villain is like 47/3 over 100+ hands. Readless or against anyone w/ any semblance of aggressive tendencies I probably snap this off because of villains passive line + missed FD + my small sizing that may induce a bluff raise. However Villain's stats lead me to believe hes playing a purely fit or fold game and isn't bluffing this river often enough to make the call profitable.

So I guess thoughts on the B/F OTR? Or any other part of the hand if u find it relevant:

    Poker Stars, $4 Buy-in (800/1,600 blinds, 150 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 6 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #13405662

    Hero (UTG): 127,156 (79.5 bb)
    MP: 59,006 (36.9 bb)
    CO: 15,557 (9.7 bb)
    BTN: 16,454 (10.3 bb)
    SB: 37,491 (23.4 bb)
    BB: 14,336 (9 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is UTG with K J
    Hero raises to 3,666, 3 folds, SB calls 2,866, BB folds

    Flop: (9,832) Q 6 Q (2 players)
    SB checks, Hero bets 4,990, SB calls 4,990

    Turn: (19,812) K (2 players)
    SB checks, Hero checks

    River: (19,812) 4 (2 players)
    SB checks, Hero bets 6,600, SB raises to 28,685 and is all-in, Hero folds

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    Old 07-04-2012, 12:01 PM   #2
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    Re: $4.40: KJo Facing Weird C/R OTR vs Station

    I think we can make the river sizing a bit bigger vs a 47/3, but yeah it's definitely a fold to the check-shove, nicely played.
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    Old 07-04-2012, 12:55 PM   #3
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    Re: $4.40: KJo Facing Weird C/R OTR vs Station

    why dont you set up a river jam vs a station?
    5k
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    Old 07-04-2012, 04:54 PM   #4
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    Re: $4.40: KJo Facing Weird C/R OTR vs Station

    Bet turn shove river. Easy fold as played
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    Old 07-04-2012, 05:14 PM   #5
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    Re: $4.40: KJo Facing Weird C/R OTR vs Station

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    Bet turn shove river. Easy fold as played
    yeah yeah yeah
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    Old 07-04-2012, 10:11 PM   #6
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    Re: $4.40: KJo Facing Weird C/R OTR vs Station

    Tempted to overbet jam river as played
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    Old 07-05-2012, 11:56 PM   #7
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    Re: $4.40: KJo Facing Weird C/R OTR vs Station

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    why dont you set up a river jam vs a station?
    5k
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    Yea against this type of player b/f OTT is prob optimal.

    Thx for feedback.

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    That might not be so terrible aginst this type of villain either.
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    Old 07-06-2012, 01:06 AM   #8
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    Re: $4.40: KJo Facing Weird C/R OTR vs Station

    Ya I agree with Furo.

    I don't really like the overjam otr tbh. 47/3 might be too much of a drooler for us to bother repping anything.
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    Old 07-06-2012, 01:14 AM   #9
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    Re: $4.40: KJo Facing Weird C/R OTR vs Station

    think river is way too deep to jam as played. maybe 5k less eff would be ok.

    would check river with basically whole turn check range.. so bet more often
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    Old 07-06-2012, 02:10 PM   #10
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    Re: $4.40: KJo Facing Weird C/R OTR vs Station

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    Ya I agree with Furo.

    I don't really like the overjam otr tbh. 47/3 might be too much of a drooler for us to bother repping anything.
    Against a 47/3 I think if he has any pair he'd probably call an overshove OTR, but as I said before the optimal line against this guy is just get him pot stuck through smaller bets OTT + OTR
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    Re: $4.40: KJo Facing Weird C/R OTR vs Station

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    Against a 47/3 I think if he has any pair he'd probably call an overshove OTR
    think so? ya maybe. If that's the consensus then betting the turn is a must.
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    Old 07-06-2012, 06:31 PM   #12
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    Re: $4.40: KJo Facing Weird C/R OTR vs Station

    from my experience stations are averse to huge bets, esp when it's a shove. sucking them in is >>> overbetting.
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    Re: $4.40: KJo Facing Weird C/R OTR vs Station

    yea b/f each street, jam river. he will c/r better hands somewhere before river and since its a station there is value vs mid pairs/worse Kx
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    Old 07-07-2012, 06:35 AM   #14
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    Re: $4.40: KJo Facing Weird C/R OTR vs Station

    i don't think the c-bet is that profitable here/is close vs him.
    and I think betting OTT slightly > OTR

    but nh
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