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04-22-2017 , 08:17 PM
Villain was running 14/10/5,5 over 140 hands, so pretty tight. This is last 10 remaining so people want to make the final table. I feel like my hand is too strong to fold to the 3 bet given it's button vs small blind. Could we 4-bet shove as a bluff here putting max amount of pressure on and utilizing the ace blocker? Or just call and use our position with a hand that plays ok postflop? And on the flop, with 2 backdoor straight draws and a backdoor flush draw, being in position folding seemed super weak. But the stack to pot ratio made me think that calling isn't right here, plus he's repping pretty strong when he 3-bets and bets here. Maybe I'm overthinking it and the hand is just standard but I found that I am overfolding to Cbets so just checking some hands I'm uncertain about.





    Poker Stars, $2 Buy-in (2,000/4,000 blinds, 600 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 5 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37709610

    BB: 101,720 (25.4 bb)
    MP: 76,894 (19.2 bb)
    CO: 88,698 (22.2 bb)
    Hero (BTN): 191,313 (47.8 bb)
    SB: 137,269 (34.3 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BTN with 9 A
    2 folds, Hero raises to 8,280, SB raises to 24,000, BB folds, Hero calls 15,720

    Flop: (55,000) K J 8 (2 players)
    SB bets 23,650, Hero folds




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    04-22-2017 , 10:58 PM
    With 140 hands do you have any info on his tendencies in the SB specifically? His stats are pretty nitty but he might like to 3b out of the SB more or less frequently than other positions.


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    04-23-2017 , 04:57 AM
    Had not looked at this but his 3bet percentage out of the small blind is 16,7 over 12 hands.
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    04-23-2017 , 06:41 AM
    I think this hand is well played by you. You have to fold flop given his range advantage and this seems like the wrong opponent to be 4! Ripping.

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    04-23-2017 , 07:18 AM
    I'd just fold to the 3 bet to be honest - although V looks to have high 3b % out of the small blind in reality this is just two hands - and presumably since you looked after this hand it is just once previously. I don't see a tight player getting out of line all that often against a bigger stack on the FT bubble and we don't have a hand that flops that well.
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    04-23-2017 , 08:08 PM
    Seems weak when this is among the top of my button opening range. If I start folding everything but the absolute top of my opening range I can be easily exploited by just 3-betting any two from small blind.
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    04-24-2017 , 04:28 AM
    think its pretty std. Don't think 4b shoving is better than flatting in position
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    04-24-2017 , 10:28 AM
    I think this is fine. Although oldgoat is correct about the sample size, it's still a spot that's ripe for getting 3b by a range you're beating and you have a hand that can flop decently. You whiffed, so time to fold.

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    04-24-2017 , 12:31 PM
    What is your image at the table? In witch place are u ? How u are perceived by your opponents. How much you open otb. I think if u open a lot from button then u have to expect sb or bb to make a play at you if are players. If u dont open a lot then its a fold to a 3 bet pre vs a tight player because his range is pretty tight something like 10-10+ and AQ+. But if u are opening a lot and ur oponnent is aware of this and he 3 bets , you cann make a 4 bet but no all in , something like 50-60k. Your play depends of many factors but if u have doubts stay to the stronger side and just fold.
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