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07-22-2017 , 07:51 AM

III PRO III

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What is the play here with 33bb behind?

Poker Stars, $5 Buy-in (2,000/4,000 blinds, 500 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 8 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37797347

Hero (CO): 156,348 (39.1 bb)
BTN: 100,582 (25.1 bb)
SB: 40,087 (10 bb)
BB: 157,247 (39.3 bb)
UTG+2: 86,592 (21.6 bb)
MP1: 124,531 (31.1 bb)
MP2: 45,502 (11.4 bb)
MP3: 145,691 (36.4 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with K

3 folds, MP3 raises to 8,000, Hero raises to 24,000, BTN folds, SB raises to 39,587 and is all-in, BB raises to 156,747 and is all-in, MP3 folds

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07-22-2017 , 02:23 PM

Kev1498

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Easy call assuming there is no ICM pressure and both SB and BB aren't complete nits.

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07-22-2017 , 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by III PRO III

What is the play here with 33bb behind?

3 folds, MP3 raises to 8,000, Hero raises to 24,000, BTN folds, SB raises to 39,587 and is all-in, BB raises to 156,747 and is all-in, MP3 folds

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Is this ITM? I think it's a fold. All players involved should have a range heavy with Aces and Kings. You may be slightly ahead of one player or so (AQs-AJs/o) perhaps either the SB or BB has AK as well. Ak v Ak v Aq v TT is not in that great of shape to risk your stack. Even if it only ends up being Ak v Aj v 77, still considerable risk for your life. I get that if you win, you have a monster stack. What if it ends up Ak v AJs v KK?
Fold, next hand.

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07-22-2017 , 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by peddy.jr.85

Hero is blocking both aces and kings and folding AK under 35 big blinds is a big leak especially multi-way were you have quite a bit of equity to get a monster stack going assuming they don't have aces or kings.

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07-22-2017 , 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Kev1498

Is this a live or online tournament? There is a huge difference. I have won tournaments folding to 7bbs in spots.

Calling AKo for 33 bbs all in with at least 3 way action is a good way to have a cool story on the rail.

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07-22-2017 , 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by peddy.jr.85

This was today 5.50 8max micro millions, 400 left

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07-22-2017 , 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by III PRO III

This was today 5.50 8max micro millions, 400 left

I say fold. With 33 bigs left, surely there will be a more favorable spot than a 3 way all in with AK.

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07-22-2017 , 06:12 PM

Kev1498

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Originally Posted by peddy.jr.85

The post says pokerstars on it... And AK is way too strong to pass up for 33 BB's in almost any spot.

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07-22-2017 , 06:14 PM

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My first reactions was to fold, 33bb ...I think 25bb or less we need to pray and go with it. Same goes for QQ I believe. Not sure thats why I posted here

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07-22-2017 , 06:43 PM

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Kev1498

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Ranges I gave villains

SB - 88+ ATo+ AJs+ KQs
BB - JJ+ AQs+ AQo+

Equity needed to call = 1 / [(Amount in Pot) / (Amount to call) + 1]
= 1 / [(232334) / (132747) + 1]
= 1 / 2.75
= 0.3636

So we need just over 36% to call this if my ranges are correct. According to pokerstove we have just under 31% equity against both those ranges so I am actually wrong and this should be a fold. Although I don't think the range calculator on pokerstove accounts for blockers so we are probably a bit more equity from that. But mathematically this is a fold and I was wrong.

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07-22-2017 , 06:56 PM

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I called, BB shows up with A7s lolz..and BB had KK

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07-22-2017 , 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by III PRO III

I called, BB shows up with A7s lolz..and BB had KK

Like I said, 3 way action with AKo is a bad spot. I mean if it is a scenario 3 way, not for your life, you have a playable stack left if you lose, and there is at least a potential to break even if I win the side pot and lose the main pot, I don't mind it as much. 3 ways for my life though, I like a fold. I'd rather have 88 HU than AKo 3 ways.

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07-23-2017 , 04:05 AM

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We don't need the results but yeah BB is so bladed it's absurd. It's a fold though and it doesn't seem that close really given BB is shoving 40 blinds into MP3 and hero. It's not like AK is that great of a hand here to wanna flip and the blocking equity isn't that great. That mostly counts for when we're heads up, not when someones range is literally QQ+

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07-23-2017 , 05:29 AM

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wowsooooted

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this would be a good spot to fold

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