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Old 06-12-2012, 11:31 PM   #1
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2 pair OOP on wet board - 2.2$ 6M turbo

V is playing 79/21 over 14 hands. The board is so wet I put V on a draw OTT so I gii.
Any thoughts?
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[converted_hand][hand_history]Poker Stars, $2 Buy-in (60/120 blinds, 15 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #13203871

CO: 9,030 (75.3 bb)
BTN: 4,155 (34.6 bb)
SB: 8,387 (69.9 bb)
Hero (BB): 3,303 (27.5 bb)
UTG: 2,210 (18.4 bb)
MP: 8,015 (66.8 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q T
2 folds, CO calls 120, BTN folds, SB completes, Hero checks

Flop: (450) T Q 2 (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, CO checks

Turn: (450) 8 (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets 360, CO raises to 720, SB folds, Hero raises to 3,168 and is all-in, CO calls 2,448
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Old 06-12-2012, 11:36 PM   #2
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Re: 2 pair OOP on wet board - 2.2$ 6M turbo

always bet the flop and that goes double with this guy in the hand. As played gii ott like you did.
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Old 06-13-2012, 09:50 AM   #3
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Re: 2 pair OOP on wet board - 2.2$ 6M turbo

I iso this pre vs those stats and a CO limp. Bet the flop, dear.
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Old 06-16-2012, 04:18 AM   #4
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Re: 2 pair OOP on wet board - 2.2$ 6M turbo

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I iso this pre vs those stats and a CO limp. Bet the flop, dear.
You think iso'ing here with 27.5 bb is profitable? It just seems to me that we are too short. We iso to 3 or 4 bb? then we cbet.. so if we bet like half pot, we end up having 20 bb. I'm curious if you are okay with this line this short. Iso + Cbet, if it fails, we will have 20 bb.. Is that why you are okay with it? Because we will still have a good stack to push around w/ FE?
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Old 06-16-2012, 05:18 AM   #5
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Re: 2 pair OOP on wet board - 2.2$ 6M turbo

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You think iso'ing here with 27.5 bb is profitable? It just seems to me that we are too short. We iso to 3 or 4 bb? then we cbet.. so if we bet like half pot, we end up having 20 bb. I'm curious if you are okay with this line this short. Iso + Cbet, if it fails, we will have 20 bb.. Is that why you are okay with it? Because we will still have a good stack to push around w/ FE?
"V is playing 79/21" even though it's 14 hands those are the stats of a limpfish and a big one at that as he also proved by limping this hand. QT is way ahead of his limping range.

Also, given his very wide pf limping range he'll probably fold to our cbet often enough to make it profitable.
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Old 06-16-2012, 06:21 AM   #6
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Re: 2 pair OOP on wet board - 2.2$ 6M turbo

Lead flop aggressively not folding turn
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Old 06-16-2012, 06:34 AM   #7
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Re: 2 pair OOP on wet board - 2.2$ 6M turbo

I totally agree with this,because in these micro we have to be aggressive vs these V.
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Old 06-16-2012, 04:53 PM   #8
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"V is playing 79/21" even though it's 14 hands those are the stats of a limpfish and a big one at that as he also proved by limping this hand. QT is way ahead of his limping range.

Also, given his very wide pf limping range he'll probably fold to our cbet often enough to make it profitable.
I definitely like that we are playing against a 79/21.. There are a lot of hands that fish will call flop cbets with that make no sense.. like a backdoor straight draw lol.. They are calling with all draws, including gutshots.. any pair.. and if they have 22-88, they are calling even if it's 4th pair a decent % of the time =/ I'm just worried we won't always pick up a pot with a cbet, and have to think about committing ourselves..
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Old 06-16-2012, 05:52 PM   #9
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I definitely like that we are playing against a 79/21.. There are a lot of hands that fish will call flop cbets with that make no sense.. like a backdoor straight draw lol.. They are calling with all draws, including gutshots.. any pair.. and if they have 22-88, they are calling even if it's 4th pair a decent % of the time =/ I'm just worried we won't always pick up a pot with a cbet, and have to think about committing ourselves..
with 27BB stack I'm very happy committing my stack to any +EV spot especially in an aggressive manner. <30BB stack is not the place to be avoiding variance imo.
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Old 06-16-2012, 06:55 PM   #10
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with 27BB stack I'm very happy committing my stack to any +EV spot especially in an aggressive manner. <30BB stack is not the place to be avoiding variance imo.
Good post imo.
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