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07-22-2016 , 05:48 PM

R00Tee

grinder

Join Date: Oct 2015 Posts: 559

So what do you guys think about this spot? villain is 19/10/6 over 46 hands 33% aggression frequency. Pretty odd line for sure.

Seems like he's never betting worse than 2 pair for value when he uses this sizing and I really can't imagine someone bluffing like this. Especially given it was 3 way on the flop. I feel like people play way more honest multiway

WPN, $50 Buy-in (50/100 blinds, 10 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 8 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: 8,055 (80.6 bb)
BB: 9,976 (99.8 bb)
UTG+2: 3,831 (38.3 bb)
MP1: 3,330 (33.3 bb)
MP2: 1,004 (10 bb)
MP3: 4,340 (43.4 bb)
CO: 4,798 (48 bb)
Hero (BTN): 6,805 (68.1 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with T

5 folds, Hero raises to 200, SB folds, BB calls 100

Flop: (530) T

(2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets 300, BB calls 300

Turn: (1,130) 8

(2 players)
BB bets 565, Hero calls 565

River: (2,260) A

(2 players)
BB bets 2,002, [color="grey"]Hero?

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07-22-2016 , 06:07 PM

BlitzMonkey

journeyman

Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 307

I'd say fold, if he's doing this for value you're beaten by a laundry list of hands from better 2 pairs to straights or even a set that can be played in the way he did. His most likely hand is QJ, calls the flop bet and then starts bombing the turn and river showing no fear of the ace, and you're right to believe that this would be a bizarre line to take as a bluff, so I'm folding this unless I really have reasons to believe he's bluffing, for instance if he's tried a similar play and it turned out to be an actual bluff.

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07-22-2016 , 06:08 PM

URagnatha

adept

Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 1,158

such an interesting hand I'm calling and making note. Most off your wide range misses flop. When he donks turn there are so few hands in your range that improve given he can float this flop a heap and if not there are a tonne of semi bluffs in his range that may play this way.
Put simply your hand is far to close to the top of your range to fold and there is plenty in his range you beat.
So as played I'm calling rive r100%

Note I'm fairly new to MTT and although bi is within my bi range just, is a fair bit higher then my ABI.

I am also assuming Villain will have balanced donking ranges at this buy in

Last edited by URagnatha; 07-22-2016 at 06:13 PM. Reason: last point

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07-22-2016 , 09:07 PM

R00Tee

grinder

Join Date: Oct 2015 Posts: 559

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Originally Posted by URagnatha

Nah I highly doubt he's got a balanced range. Especially at these stakes and especially when he uses that sizing. For those reasons I ended up folding

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07-24-2016 , 10:12 AM

oldgoat

old hand

Join Date: Feb 2015 Posts: 1,972

This kind of line is just too strong a range for most people - got to fold.

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07-25-2016 , 04:47 AM

furo

deviation of equilibrium

Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 29,639

Can't fold this w/o a good read.

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