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07-21-2012, 07:14 PM
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newbie
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 38
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15BB utg AQo, 1$ micro mil.
Last 100, 1$ mico mil.
Shoving is too loose here with 8 people behind?
Would really like to know a shoving range for 15BB utg.
Thanks
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07-21-2012, 07:38 PM
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#2
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: The Hologram
Posts: 4,355
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Re: 15BB utg AQo, 1$ micro mil.
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shove.
antes?
KJ+,22+,A8-A9+,
no antes?
AT+,KQ+,55-66+. I could be talked into looser.
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07-22-2012, 03:22 AM
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#3
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newbie
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 38
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Re: 15BB utg AQo, 1$ micro mil.
Blinds and antes were 15000/30000 3750, 10 mins till next level.
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07-22-2012, 05:27 AM
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#4
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journeyman
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 365
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Re: 15BB utg AQo, 1$ micro mil.
Just do the 'Doke', works for me here!
ANy pair or suited Ace is enough to 'doke' with.
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07-22-2012, 07:26 AM
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stranger
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 4
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Re: 15BB utg AQo, 1$ micro mil.
You should consider the bubble factor, if the bubble is over you can push looser, but yet pushing so much like "Foks" recommended is away too much in my view even without bubble.
Here you have 6 M which is still a lot, shoving deuces over all the table cannot be profitable.
I would fold AQ with a bubble factor and shove it otherwise.
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07-22-2012, 09:53 AM
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: The Hologram
Posts: 4,355
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Re: 15BB utg AQo, 1$ micro mil.
Quote:
Originally Posted by novik
You should consider the bubble factor, if the bubble is over you can push looser, but yet pushing so much like "Foks" recommended is away too much in my view even without bubble.
Here you have 6 M which is still a lot, shoving deuces over all the table cannot be profitable.
I would fold AQ with a bubble factor and shove it otherwise.
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I was contemplating preparing a very long, flaming response to this, but then realized I was wasting my time and probably trying too hard to educate someone who doesn't want to be. I'll give you one tip though: Study other material beside HoH.
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07-24-2012, 06:48 PM
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stranger
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 4
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Re: 15BB utg AQo, 1$ micro mil.
Harrington on Holdem? I didn't read it.
Anyway, what is the your view? I would like to know..
(In this you were definitely wrong, I want to hear new ideas/opinions)
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07-24-2012, 08:00 PM
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#8
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journeyman
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: In an igloo
Posts: 200
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Re: 15BB utg AQo, 1$ micro mil.
shoving AT+66+KQs with antes
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07-24-2012, 10:56 PM
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#9
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: On the edge.
Posts: 4,405
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Re: 15BB utg AQo, 1$ micro mil.
Quote:
Originally Posted by jackinbeat
Just do the 'Doke', works for me here!
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I thought the doke was a Brunson bluff?
Novik....stfu.....Fok is well respected.
You should take the time to read his posts...might save you some money.
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07-25-2012, 12:07 AM
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adept
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 776
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Re: 15BB utg AQo, 1$ micro mil.
Pretty easy snap shove..
I probably shove ATs+,KQs,77+,AJo+
EDIT:
Posting the actual HH is always more helpful. I'm gonna make a copy of my spreadsheet to show if this is a shove or not.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...Gc&output=html
+1.16 bb shove. The spreadsheet isn't completely accurate, it's doesn't calculate for situations when there are multiple callers because that is a bit difficult for a spreadsheet + don't want to spend my time on that. This is accurate enough compared to sites like ICMIZER which calculate for multiple callers. [This is a chip equity calculation and does not factor in ICM. If you think my range is incorrect, let me know, and I'll adjust it.]
Last edited by wangtangkiki; 07-25-2012 at 12:23 AM.
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07-25-2012, 12:42 AM
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adept
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 776
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Re: 15BB utg AQo, 1$ micro mil.
I just used that spreadsheet to see what hands are shoves or not shoves.
ATo/ATs is a -EV shove with the calling range I assigned (88+,AJ+)
AJs+,AQo+,KQs,22+ is a better shoving range than the one I guesstimated above.
AQo is still a snap shove, but AJo is -EV to shove.
AJo becomes a shove at 13bb. At 15bb, it's -EV (only by 0.26bb).
AQo is a +EV shove until 32bb. That's with the calling range I assigned. This isn't exactly true since the calling range of villains' will change from 88+,AJ+ to slightly tighter especially when it's an open shove over 25bb+..
NOTE: AQo's actual expected value for shoving is +1.06 bb, and not +1.16bb. I had set up the spreadsheet to show the EV for AQs+AQo, and not just AQo by itself.
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07-25-2012, 10:24 AM
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stranger
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 4
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Re: 15BB utg AQo, 1$ micro mil.
Quote:
Originally Posted by HUHandEH
I thought the doke was a Brunson bluff?
Novik....stfu.....Fok is well respected.
You should take the time to read his posts...might save you some money.
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Thanks for the adult comment..
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07-25-2012, 10:36 AM
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#13
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grinder
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: @MOOtweetz on twitter follow me
Posts: 457
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Re: 15BB utg AQo, 1$ micro mil.
ez snap shove dont even think twice dont wanna see a flop get it in
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