$11 $4 guaranteed on Stars... Awkward river spot - MTT Poker Strategy

SplitNutz · 06-21-2012, 04:06 AM

Hey everyone,

I think I brought this on myself, checking it down would have been the best option, andhis play made 0 sense to me - let me know how you would have played it and if you would have called or not.. after a few responses I'll let you know what I did?

I probably should have 3x 3b pre as well? Or at least 2.5x the intial raise.

[hand_history]Poker Stars, $10 Buy-in (50/100 blinds) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #13294062

UTG+2: 2,297 (23 bb)
MP1: 3,751 (37.5 bb)
MP2: 7,840 (78.4 bb)
MP3: 1,286 (12.9 bb)
Hero (CO): 2,700 (27 bb)
BTN: 6,150 (61.5 bb)
SB: 4,580 (45.8 bb)
BB: 2,917 (29.2 bb)
UTG+1: 2,514 (25.1 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with Q

Q

2 folds, MP1 raises to 200, 2 folds, Hero raises to 400, 3 folds, MP1 calls 200

Flop: (950) A

3

K

(2 players)
MP1 checks, Hero checks

Turn: (950) 9

(2 players)
MP1 checks, Hero checks

River: (950) 5

(2 players)
MP1 checks, Hero bets 443, MP1 raises to 3,351 and is all-in, Hero ???

SplitNutz · 06-21-2012, 05:08 AM

sorry i meant $4k guaranteed obv.

**furo** · 06-21-2012, 07:59 AM

pre is ok, 2.5x his raise would be better.

kinda stupid board to get value from worse hands. i'd just check it down as playe.d

desperad0oo7 · 06-21-2012, 02:00 PM

check otr

as played it's meh. When I get confused I call.

poker_giant · 06-21-2012, 03:22 PM

i 3 bet more pre maybe 2.4 times
i bet flop and shut down in case he calls or raises
i check behind as played, you wont get called by any worse hand and are happy to get to showdown

kamikaze baby · 06-21-2012, 05:42 PM

2.5x pre, not much more in position. If villain is letting you show down for free, take the free showdown. What hand did you think was calling you that you beat on that board after you 3-bet preflop?

Foks · 06-21-2012, 06:27 PM

Villain's line looks like a bluff, but w/o reads idk if we can b/c OTR. Maybe I do occassionally, but ill just fold usually, make a note and w8 for some stats + a future hand I can xploit him lateron.

The bet OTR isn't a great value bet given theres not much of his that c/c there that we beat.

V-Delaney · 06-21-2012, 08:29 PM

Our hand looks exactly like what it is so he might just jam a smaller pp or w/e.
Don't like river bet either

CZECHSHARK · 06-23-2012, 07:55 AM

pre i wanna raise on 550-600.
check OTR to me,

prento18 · 06-23-2012, 08:00 AM

make it 500-600 pre there are no antes so we need to make it bigger to get more value from our hand.

given its a 11 mtt just check it down. Might stab turn though given hes called oop and checked to us twice.