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06-22-2012, 07:16 AM
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grinder
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$10 MTT: JJ versus EP OR - okay to get it in?
I'm not a very experienced MTT player and sometimes I'm not sure what is standard or not. About a 1000 runners, 150ish left, 90 get paid. I've just been moved to the table so no reads. Is it okay to get it in here? Or should I see the flop against an EP unknown?
Poker Stars, $10 Buy-in (200/400 blinds, 50 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #13303382
UTG+2: 31,936 (79.8 bb)
MP1: 24,167 (60.4 bb)
MP2: 6,501 (16.3 bb)
MP3: 13,732 (34.3 bb)
CO: 10,529 (26.3 bb)
Hero (BTN): 10,735 (26.8 bb)
SB: 48,388 (121 bb)
BB: 8,510 (21.3 bb)
UTG+1: 17,344 (43.4 bb)
Preflop: Hero is BTN with J  J 
2 folds, MP1 raises to 1,125, 3 folds, Hero ???
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06-22-2012, 07:20 AM
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Carpal \'Tunnel
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Re: $10 MTT: JJ versus EP OR - okay to get it in?
3bet/call
I make it 2442-2992/call a shove
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06-22-2012, 11:24 AM
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adept
Join Date: Mar 2012
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Re: $10 MTT: JJ versus EP OR - okay to get it in?
yes exactly how i would play it, i would never flat with your stack size because it doesnt make sense to setmine/you dont know what to do when overcards come OTF, 3b/call
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06-22-2012, 01:44 PM
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journeyman
Join Date: Oct 2011
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Re: $10 MTT: JJ versus EP OR - okay to get it in?
GO and GO here.
if he shoved....call
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06-22-2012, 04:16 PM
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Carpal \'Tunnel
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Re: $10 MTT: JJ versus EP OR - okay to get it in?
2424 call
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06-22-2012, 05:03 PM
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Carpal \'Tunnel
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Re: $10 MTT: JJ versus EP OR - okay to get it in?
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Originally Posted by CZECHSHARK
GO and GO here.
if he shoved....call
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you can't go n go in position. just thought I'd point that out.
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06-23-2012, 07:37 AM
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newbie
Join Date: Dec 2011
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Re: $10 MTT: JJ versus EP OR - okay to get it in?
I think your stack is a bit too big to shove it in here, so I would 3bet to 2500-2600 and call if you get shoved on.
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06-23-2012, 07:40 AM
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journeyman
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Re: $10 MTT: JJ versus EP OR - okay to get it in?
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Originally Posted by desperad0oo7
you can't go n go in position. just thought I'd point that out.
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of course,sorry for spam i forgot we are IP....
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06-23-2012, 07:52 AM
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centurion
Join Date: Dec 2010
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Re: $10 MTT: JJ versus EP OR - okay to get it in?
3betting to like 2500 gets to many hands that we crush to fold, and he will prob 4b us all in with 2 overs or 88-TT or higher pp anyways. Just jam for value, he will call much wider that way.
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06-23-2012, 08:59 AM
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Carpal \'Tunnel
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Re: $10 MTT: JJ versus EP OR - okay to get it in?
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Originally Posted by prento18
3betting to like 2500 gets to many hands that we crush to fold, and he will prob 4b us all in with 2 overs or 88-TT or higher pp anyways. Just jam for value, he will call much wider that way.
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he's also going to flat alot of hands we crush. so no.
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06-23-2012, 10:09 AM
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centurion
Join Date: Dec 2010
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Re: $10 MTT: JJ versus EP OR - okay to get it in?
Quote:
Originally Posted by desperad0oo7
he's also going to flat alot of hands we crush. so no.
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doubt hes flatting smaller pp for set mining when we put 30% of our stack in pre, and we dont really want him to see flops with suited connectors.
this is just thought but hes 4b jamming 77+, AJs+, KQs, where are if we jam hes calling range could be as wide as 55+, ATs+, KQs, KQo
also by jamming we dont have to play guessing games on flops with overs.
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06-23-2012, 10:21 AM
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Carpal \'Tunnel
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Re: $10 MTT: JJ versus EP OR - okay to get it in?
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Originally Posted by prento18
doubt hes flatting smaller pp for set mining when we put 30% of our stack in pre, and we dont really want him to see flops with suited connectors.
this is just thought but hes 4b jamming 77+, AJs+, KQs, where are if we jam hes calling range could be as wide as 55+, ATs+, KQs, KQo
also by jamming we dont have to play guessing games on flops with overs.
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you should pay a visit to the wierd **** fish do thread. you'd be surprised.
2 days a go a fish flatted my 3b oop with 18 BB holding KTo.
and there is noway his calling range for a jam is that wide.
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06-23-2012, 10:23 AM
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Pooh-Bah
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Re: $10 MTT: JJ versus EP OR - okay to get it in?
I'd spew shove this from time to time as well. I think jamming over a regs raise isn't horrible if we balance it (I know that isn't the case here v unknown), because I doubt we get many calls in 3b OOP vs an EPR that are in bad shape vs JJ if they're solid. Maybe they can't lay down 99/AQ so I spose a 3b/c is fine if they will 4bet that range as well.
3b/c is probably better vs a $10 random though cuz its possible they do float with worse OOP and u gain more value from CBing and taking down, or getting one of those worse hands to pay u off on a profitable board.
It does suck to have to play post flop in a 3bet pot, but itll only be a spr of 1, so were gonna get it AI on most boards that arent AKx,AQx, etc, and sometimes even then if villain makes some super meak stab or something.
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