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Originally Posted by Davesreiberg
Curious on thoughts here. If we are calling the 3bet pre with J-J what better flops are we looking for? Aside from the obvious J x x . To me it seems like we have to call and see the turn and then assess. Just seems odd to be calling pre and then getting a pretty good flop for jacks and then check folding. I could be way off here but that is the logic I have behind this.
There are opponents that I would check-jam the flop against, but I feel like I need more of a read to back up this play. I think vs. an unknown, there's a lot of factors going on in this hand that would make me sigh-fold in this particular situation. It doesn't mean I would check-fold this flop every time. Change a few of those factors and I would lean towards getting it in.
If villain in this hand had made a smaller sizing on the flop, I'm almost always peeling one and evaluating the turn. The problem with calling the flop cbet here is his sizing. We're left with less than a pot-sized bet on the turn, so I'm never check-folding to a turn jam given the pot odds I'd be getting laid. When he makes this cbet sizing, I'm making my decision now whether to play for stacks (either by check-jamming flop or checking to call off on the turn) or fold. In this particular spot, I lean towards making a tough fold. That being said, I wouldn't fault anyone for getting it in, either. I just think making a tough fold is the slightly better play given the circumstances.