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04-22-2015 , 01:18 PM

Hurroo

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Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 37

Winamax - €9+€1|300/600 NL (9 max) - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP: 86.03 BB (VPIP: 29.82, PFR: 7.02, 3Bet Preflop: 6.45, Hands: 57)
Hero (MP+1): 61.31 BB
CO: 55.25 BB
BTN: 48.03 BB
SB: 27.33 BB
BB: 116.77 BB (VPIP: 61.11, PFR: 38.89, 3Bet Preflop: 25.00, Hands: 18)
UTG: 30.18 BB
UTG+1: 30.67 BB

8 players post ante of 0.1 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.3 BB) Hero has J

fold, fold, MP calls 1 BB, Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, fold, BB calls 2 BB, MP calls 2 BB

Flop: (10.3 BB, 3 players) 6

BB checks, MP checks, Hero bets 5.42 BB, BB calls 5.42 BB, MP calls 5.42 BB

Turn: (26.55 BB, 3 players) 9

BB checks, MP checks, HERO?

What do you think, bet or check is the better option in this situation? What is your plan on the river?

I have a read on MP, on drawy flops he donkbets big with strong but vulnerable hands, so I think he can not have strong hand.

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04-22-2015 , 02:39 PM

LordRiverRat

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Check flop IMO. Sure it's draw heavy but how many worse hands are you expecting to call you multiway? As played check back and probably fold the river since you narrowed their range and especially because MP over-called.

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04-22-2015 , 03:55 PM

Antricko123

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Cbet flop is fine it's gives you the option of taking the free card on turn then you can reavaluate river

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04-22-2015 , 06:45 PM

RalphWaldoEmerson

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bet flop, check back turn

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04-22-2015 , 08:19 PM

Dragons_Egg

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Originally Posted by LordRiverRat

I agree, but I think you should seriously consider calling river if BB checks and MP bets. A river bet from MP should be more weighted towards draws than a bet from the BB.

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04-23-2015 , 04:46 PM

Hurroo

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Originally Posted by LordRiverRat

Sure it's draw heavy but how many worse hands are you expecting to call you multiway?

Well, I think there are a lot of weaker hands that could call. Openended straight draws (75, 97, T9), flush draws, 2nd pairs (87, 98, A8, K8) and because of BB is a really weak player I would expect that sometimes he calls even with gutshots or 3rd pairs. Is it not enough?

On the other hand is it not better to control the pot size by myself? What if BB opens pot size bet on the turn after my flop check?

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04-23-2015 , 05:09 PM

RalphWaldoEmerson

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Originally Posted by Hurroo

I agree with this, I really don't understand checking back this flop. As the preflop aggressor IP we can definitely go for value otf even 3-way, also we maintain the betting lead and likely get to the river without putting any more money in the pot.

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