Any tourney reg on party knows exactly what I'm talking about.

They lost your business over $6, which is why you don't know - and I'm not going to waste my time explaining. It's easily benefited the players as a whole for 6 figures though.

On the edge of my seat...

Really though, considering how rarely they give players a time line, and they gave us a relatively specific one regarding this issue - I would be kind of surprised if nothing happens.


Not shocked.

Just kind of.

As promised and discussed in the original thread, we've come to a conclusion on how to resolve the $2,500 and $5,000 Missions + Achievements Freeroll issues, in regards to crediting tickets for certain Mission and Achievement (M&A) tournaments and not posting them in the client.

In order take make this whole, we will be running the $5,000 M&A tournaments on the following dates/times:

Saturday June 7th 19:45
Saturday June 14th 19:45
Saturday June 21st 19:45
Saturday June 28th 19:45

In addition we will also run the $2,500 M&A tournaments on the following dates/times:

Saturday June 7th 17:45
Saturday June 14th 17:45
Saturday June 21st 17:45
Saturday June 28th 17:45

All tournament prizepools will pay T$ as per the initial versions of these.

This thread will be monitored to field questions/comments/concerns regarding this resolution.
Thank you for your patience and for choosing partypoker.

Party_rep

Will there be any more than these? Plenty of players have more than 4 tickets of each.

To Party_rep:
Thank you for this. This solves almost one half of the situation.

Remember, there are tickets on BOTH sites.

You can only play one site at a time. Therefore, what is the Borgata site going to do? You have not made this clear.

IF you have tickets beyond the 8 Tournaments what will happen with those tickets?

Will you take care of those players on a one on one basis?

Looking forward to your response.

@partyrep

On Borgata I have 6 $5k tickets and 5 $2.5k tickets.

On Party I have 2 $5k and 2 $2.5k tickets.
So your fix to the problem is that if I am able to be free every Saturday Night in June that you will give me half of what was promised and give others with more tickets even less than half of what was promised them. Of course no one has plans on Saturday Nights in the summer.

I find this response to be completely unacceptable and instead of improving my image of your company it is now even lower than it was.

If someone owed you $1000 and then spent months avoiding your calls and questions and then you finally got $400 from them would you be happy enough with that and just forget the other $600? I think not.

This is a STEP in the right direction. I would only assume that more tournaments will follow to cover the fact that there will be people out there with more than 4 tickets for the respective levels, as well as the fact that not everyone will be available on Saturdays.

Honestly I think they should offer however many freerolls were cancelled. I dont know how many that is. But assuming were all entitled to a 5k freeroll for every single ticket we have on each site seems a bit of a stretch.

How many do you have stoop?

I have 6 5ks and 6 $2500s on party. Pretty sure i got as many you can - at least for the missions.Cant remember if I played any.

Cant check borgata right now bc I'm playing on Party.

Thats not my point though.




In my opinion, the following argument is not valid:

Max number of tickets one player could possibly win on party + Max number of tickets one player could possibly win on Borgata = X

Party/Borgata Owe the players: (X Freerolls) MINUS (Already Completed Freerolls)

It it totally reasonable for them to make it possible for a player to earn more tickets than could be spent simply because theyre freerolls. One could easily accomplish many of the missions with little effort and without even making a deposit. (Because of all the free money and value all of us were offered)

If these were tickets the players could have purchased or won in a tournament with a real buyin (like the NJCOP tickets), it would be different.

However, I do think this argument is completely reasonable:


Party/Borgata offered Tickets to Freerolls that were scheduled (however often they were scheduled) and they stopped offering them without notice or notifying the players that the promotions would be over. Therefor the players are owed however many tournaments were skipped.

I don't know what that number is.

I also think Party should offer the players something more than the value simply as a gesture of good will.



From what party rep has posted, they may or may have not already done this. I don't know.





Personally- I could care less about these freerolls as whenever they schedule them there will likely be many other tournaments or cash games with at least the value of these.

What I am interested in is trying to offer wwhat I consider a rational opinion to combat what has been evolving into a mob mentality.

My primary goal in posting all I do in in this forum is to do my best to help online poker in America. The long term potential is huge and this is such an important time in the process. At this point, if there's anything a new site entering the market can learn from NJ, it's that extremely generous promotions are not only a waste, they are also a detriment to any online gaming site.

We have a ton of problems here in NJ, but one of the biggest is how the players are dealing with them.

Just wanted to know if you had any skin in the game, stoop, and ended up getting a philosophy lesson.

only first part was in response to you

sorry (or your welcome?)

Im finally btw on party and borg

LoL a couple days ago some guy was screaming at you on PP in that wall section(?). i lold. warrior was pisssssed.


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back to the tix i think i have around 20 tot on B and P. I think maybe i played 4 2.5-5k b4 they vanished. I dont ever remember if PP ever had an end date published. + i think its maybe 40% chance these run on june 7th. knowing pp.

wow just saw thought thanks

kinda funny kinda sad


Agree its entirely possible they mess something up while trying to fix something they messed up.

(btw been meaning to respond to the cash game thing, will eventually)

what cash game thing?

btw im not warrior in case you're wondering. would love to know what happened for him to get pissed though. probably a super standard thing i bet.

Hey i didnt think you were him - but i did confuse you with someone else on 2p2 from another thread.

During a 5r HyperTurbo He probably folded to my shove 7+ times in a row costing him over 3/4 his stack, then finally called and I sucked out for the last ~3 BB.

This has been our routine for a while.

So who are you.

When did/will they post this password if you don't mind sharing?

I checked the PPNJ twitter and couldn't find anything, yet there are people already registered for this tournament so it must be posted somewhere.

Thanks!

i havent been able to get a pw either

Other than Stupidmonkey, it seems as though everyone thinks your response is better than nothing, but not good enough... we are waiting for our "questions/comments/concerns regarding this resolution" to be answered.

When will these be added to the client?

Thanks.

It's been 6 Days of replies to the resolution attempt, but no additional feedback from the Party_Rep.

You would think that there would be some type of response?

You would also think at least the first two Tournaments for Saturday June 7th would have appeared on the clients.

The Party_Rep has not addressed at any time if this resolution was just for the Party site or if it includes The Borgata site.

Also, would have expected a personal e-mail from customer service on this subject by now?? One from Party and one from The Borgata.

If people see the freerolls on the client, please update the thread...still awaiting a response from the rep...although that will probably take another 2 months...

You guys clearly don't understand... I have learned that I am a tool for complaining about their customer service for months. We are supposed to bend over and take it. We also aren't supposed to notice that the best B&M room is associated with the worst online site. We're supposed to see the Borgata name and flock to them no matter how much they screw us and never ever ever leave.

It's not fair to assume that everyone disagrees with my opinion on this because 4 or 5 people posted they feel it's not enough. It's also not fair to speak for "everyone". Making it seem as if I disagree with anyone that thinks their response "is better than nothing, but not good enough" is just you going out of your way to make it seem like I don't want whats best for the players.

I made it pretty clear I don't know how many tournaments are owed to the players, and it seems you don't either. I think it's entirely possible that more should be scheduled, but how can we make an argument if nobody knows the answer? Just saying "we want more!" is not an effective way to present an argument. Without coming up with a number, the issue has no hope of being resolved.

Your response will likely ignore what I'm actually saying and consist of more name calling and irrational complaining, or you will simply not respond to prevent looking more foolish. (like in the 888 thread)

edit: i was editing while he was responding oops

They continually have offered tickets to 5k freerolls with expiration dates of 2020. Some people earned them all in the beginning, but new players were earning them for the last few months and your argument is that they shouldn't have to run enough tournaments to satisfy all of the tickets. Your argument is ridiculous.

Edit: and I stopped arguing in the 888 thread because it was pointless. Everyone earns the same comps based on the table limit. I know this as a fact and gave up caring that you were wrong.