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Old 03-06-2017, 08:09 PM   #51
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Damn - that's right; skunks prowl about my place quite a bit. Well, that's life and death and the aftermath.

Had to protect my own cat, also. She is a great hunter and has rid the place of mice, rats, and moles. The strays wander in and just yowl and fight and spread disease.
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Old 03-06-2017, 08:32 PM   #52
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two cats are twice as good as one and only four times the work.
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Old 03-14-2017, 04:18 PM   #53
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Getting my shop on its own electrical system drop, right from the power pole - no longer will it be okie style hooked up out of the house system and run underground through 150 ft with substandard wire. Will cost a bit but safer, smarter (insurance wise also) and I will have more power access.

Will also upgrade the lighting system on my own. Searching for lights at Lowe's etc. Will get the LED kind, the style that hang by chain, they will be attached to support heads/rafters that are about 12 ft high. Plan on 3 lighting fixtures each on three separate rafters. Shop never had good lighting, only in one corner where my father used to do all his wood carving.

Anyway been planning this for awhile, got a good company to install the meter and circuit box/panel, inspection, and permit etc and the COOP electrical will be out the same day to do the power pole hook up to the electrical drop, that shoots up out of the top of the roof. Will also have 220 in the shop finally. Now I can safely run all my fun power tools and other goodies that I will buy.
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Old 03-14-2017, 08:06 PM   #54
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That post needs to contain the word juice somewhere.
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Old 03-14-2017, 11:00 PM   #55
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costco has the best led shop lights right now and the cheapest. also you can get led replacement bulbs for old florescent fixtures and even leave the ballast in ., they are about 8 bucks a bulb. and work fine as ive used them in lots of fixtures t-8 andt-12.

led puts out more light than the old ones as the old flouro gives less light as it ages. and the led is brighter at the start and stays the same. make sure you get at least 4000k bulbs in whatever you get.
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Old 03-14-2017, 11:05 PM   #56
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also wire in one or two dedicated 20 amp plugins. this way you have a spot for a freezer or something like a space heater with a bigger draw.
a motion light when you enter the shop is great. in my airplane hanger i had all motion lights and never had to touch a switch.
same in my shop and boat garage. with a few switched lights as well.
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Old 03-14-2017, 11:23 PM   #57
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Thanks Ray, good advice. I looked at a friends shop upriver and he had some motion activated lights outside and also inside his shop. It was a great setup. I already have one set up for outside that I will install. The guy up river also mentioned LED lights from Costco, so with two recommendations; I need to check it out.

Costco has the right Juice. How's that Lastcard?
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only when the guy with the vitamix machine is there giving free samples.
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Old 03-15-2017, 12:15 AM   #59
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zeno when figuring how many lights to put in just use this. put in about 20 lumens per square foot of floor space. more if there is no white inside for reflectivity( no such word).

50 lumens for the areas where you need plenty of light for working small tasks.

so for say a 1000 foot garage/shop you need 30,000 lumens. each of those led shop light bulbs are about 1700. so about twenty bulbs, or ten fixtures. you can place them overhead needed areas more so as to get more light where you need it and less where you dont need as much.
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Old 03-15-2017, 12:31 AM   #60
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my boat garage is 25 by 36 and i have 10,000 lumens that go on in motion lights when i open the garage door and enter. i have no windows in that one. then i have to use switched light over workbenches. which have one fixture over each. a couple are on pull chains. i guess about 30,000 lumens with all on but i rarely need all.
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Old 03-15-2017, 06:27 PM   #61
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I think my shop is 26 X 40. I have two windows in the back wall and one side window on one wall. And doing the lumens as you pointed out is way to go for calculating lighting needs, I was already on that one. And I'm getting lights that have an individual pull chain on each fixture. One phase was finished today as the electrical contractor got the inside stuff installed and the stick up through the roof, etc - the inspector has to come out tomorrow and green tag the meter box (on the outside) and then the electrical COOP can go ahead and do the hook up to the power pole. I don't need to be there for that which is good. I'm taking a break and visiting someone down in looney land Southern California but at least I can get some sun and warmer weather. It's raining cats and dogs again here.

I'll finish up when I return. That's the good thing about being retired - I'm on my own schedule, mostly. The rest of the world can just piss off.

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Old 03-15-2017, 09:15 PM   #62
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hook all the lights you want on at once to the same switch. that can be one of those remote plugins or to one with lots of plug ins and one going to the wall. like those power switches. as it will get old real fast walking around pull8ing chains for coming and going.

basically you want as many as you can wired to one breaker and that is controlled by a wall switch. then you can leave those you want switched on on, and those off that you use the pull chain for.
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Old 03-22-2017, 10:34 AM   #63
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Having fun helping a friend. Doing small fixit jobs in her townhouse down here in Orange County. Repaired a hole in the patio, replaced bad molding by stairs, repairing lose tiles in shower and re-grouting. This also helps me learn about things that will be useful about my own home.
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