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Old 12-21-2016, 12:31 AM   #126
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One thing about internet shopping - with those custom recommendations that pop up on sites like Amazon, it's twice as hard to avoid the temptation to start shopping for myself


Tempting lol ..


jk Have been using my new Tim Hortons Credit Card to do my internet shopping - it's the one where the 'cashback' is rewarded with credit that can only be used in their store, so something extra they give out as well is a bonus freebie on weekends ...

Next month, the weekend bonus is a muffin, yum! Will have to watch and see how quickly the credit starts adding up - have only had the card for a couple of days, and already have enough to get a free coffee or two ... so that didn't take long. Guess there's a chance things could add up faster than am expecting - with stuff like car insurance, guess things can start to add up pretty quickly. So will have to see how things go, but probably it shouldn't wind up adding up to so much Tim Horton's food


Someone in the 'Cheap Luxuries' thread was mentioning getting a credit card with a fee for the first time ...
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ETA one more. My boss who is a young rich VP put me onto the chase sapphire reserve card. I never considered a card with a fee before, and this one is $450, but it is worth it and has already paid for itself the first 6 weeks.

-$300 travel credit every year
-free tsa pre reimbursement
-free airport lounge membership
-3x points on travel or restaurant
-price match on all purchases
For Amazon heads if you put all your purchases in your cart after you buy them it will inform you of price drops
-all kinds of travel insurance for lost bags, cancellation protection, blah blah blah
-extra year on manufacturers warranty on anything you buy
-purchase protection for anything you buy including if you break it or lose it yourself. My boss got a brand new phone after dropping his and shattering it.
-if you spend 4K in the first three months you get 100,000 points also which is $1500 in travel

There is more stuff too. Maybe a lot of the ballers ITT already know about this stuff but it surprised the crap out of me. I already got 4 of my fellow pleb friends to sign up for it.

Have never bothered to look at any credit cards with a fee - some of the fees are less than $100 or so ... wonder if the benefit might make them worth the price, even for someone like me who's kind of on the cheap side?


Anyways, still shopping ...

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Old 12-21-2016, 01:31 AM   #127
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So the specials on tv tonight were a Michael Buble concert and a Tony Bennett birthday special - some lovely singing, but not super holiday-ish ... not like yesterday



Those are million dollar dogs, because they actually won America's Got Talent a couple of years ago - it's true! You know who else, is reportedly a millionaire ...
It kind of seems all the money that used to get spent playing poker is still out there - but maybe others are doing a better job than Amaya of grabbing everybody's attention, and getting a larger share? With stuff like entertainment, tweets, custom advertising, etc.

Guess putting money on a company like Amazon is maybe a way to grab a piece of the 'fun player' cash that's probably still very much out there, but is just being spent in a different way now? As well it seems like it should be a lot more fun to follow Amazon's progress next year as they continue to experiment and grow, rather than try to compete with Amaya for a sliver of pie that's getting smaller with each passing year ...


Still haven't bought my shares yet, but am looking forward to watching how things go for Amazon and Google, and ULTA from the 'rail' - hopefully everything goes *okay* ...

Going to go play the Card Match for a bit, then turn in - night everybody

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Old 12-21-2016, 06:20 PM   #128
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First day of Winter - ho ho nooo ... Not so cold out today, but there's still tons of snow everywhere, so that's always kind of blah ... guess it can only go up from here


Still trying to get to Silver Star, so will probably play some more today while the Calendar's got a zoom promo. Sometimes the tables tighten up around 9pm or 10pm, after the after-dinner crowd has filled their puzzle card, so will maybe have time to keep reading more stuff then?

Or ....may just take a rest on the couch, will see

Okay, going to play for a bit, then take a break for din


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Old 12-22-2016, 12:56 AM   #129
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Learning Corner: Possible Warning Signs of a Rough Patch to Follow?


Have tried to pick stocks that will hopefully do okay for years. But guess since my investments will be in tax free accounts, selling will be an option as well (without having to worry about tax)?

Haven't found too many companies that grow exponentially year after year without things eventually cooling off for them - like Starbucks ... and possibly Apple? So was wondering ...


QUESTION: Are there sometimes maybe signs that a hot stock is starting to cool off a bit?


In the last thread, there were those 5 red flags that Sears was showing:
1. Decreasing share price
2. Decreasing (or negative) earnings
3. Increasing debt
4. Debt that's very large
5. Increasing interest from short-sellers

Maybe an early warning sign that a company may have hit a bumpy road is that a couple of those 5 things may still look fine, while a couple of them are starting to look not quite as solid?

Have taken a look at a couple of companies, but may need to look at several more to see what sorts of things may start to look different *before* the share prices might start taking a turn? As with poker, maybe things won't always be so clear?

So here's the first company ...



Example: Domino's (DPZ)

1. Share price - still increasing, not declining (declining would be bad)

2,3. Earnings still look fine, but Domino's debt level has increased (so the first is okay, but the second is not really great)

4. Apparently their debt level is starting to look a little on the high side too (not good)

5. Increased short-seller interest, decreased insider interest (not great)

This article was saying that the reason Domino's share price went down last year was because they missed earnings. And that the only reason their share price went back up is because they did an accounting trick of borrowing money to buy back shares:
Marketwatch: Why Domino’s Pizza stock may be poised for a fall (May 18, 2016)

In #2,3 it shows that they used the borrowed money to buy back shares - guess companies like to buy back shares because it decreases the number of shares on the market ... and that will increase the Earnings Per Share (EPS), when there's fewer shares? But guess stuff like increasing earnings, share buybacks, and paying out dividends are *supposed* be the result of a company that's prospering, not the result of a company that's borrowing money to get the numbers to look like that's the case?

This other article was also saying that strange accounting is oftentimes the first sign that a company might have started to stumble.
The Economic Times - 7 ways to figure out problems in a company's financial health

LESSON: So with Domino's here:
1. Doing a google search for why Domino's shares were struggling in 2015 led to that helpful article which explained the accounting trick.

2. And so it sounds like their increasing debt and higher debt levels may indeed be an early warning sign of a rockier road ahead?
The article was a report on somebody else's analysis - but the analyst thinks it's possible Domino's might actually *decrease* next year! So guess maybe it'll be interesting to watch and see what happens to DPZ next year as well?

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Old 12-22-2016, 01:08 AM   #130
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omgosh, so beat My head wasn't feeling so great after trying to get closer to Silver Star today ... now my head feels like scrambled eggs, yikes ...

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Old 12-22-2016, 06:33 PM   #131
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My packages have arrived from Amazon - that 2 day shipping is the nuts ... now have plenty of time to do some nice wrapping and make every package look special Will try to get some of that done tonight - and may post some more stuff later too, will see ...


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Old 12-22-2016, 10:43 PM   #132
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Anybody recognize this?


It's that hand-crack flashlight/phone-charger/radio that was looking like the neatest invention ever a couple of months ago, after my power went out for a *whole 8 hours*, and my phone battery died too lol ...


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Looks like my power's back after being out all day - am still traumatized from the lack of internet tho lol ..

Am close to having enough points to get another Amazon Gift Certificate at the PS Rewards Store - can't wait to use it to pick up one of these hand-crank flashlight/radio/phone chargers!




Used my Starscoin to get an external hard drive (via Amazon) a couple of years ago, to do backups to those notes.xml and user.ini files, and that's been nice to have - have never had to worry about losing settings again It seems like having an emergency power source might wind up being another item that might wind up feeling like money well spent, even if it doesn't get used too often?

Got a bunch of these to give out as stocking-stuffers ... and got one for me as well




Wrapping the other stuff next ...


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Old 12-23-2016, 01:09 AM   #133
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Article Corner


Since there's several things besides the health of a company that can affect share price, have still been checking out realclearmarkets.com every day, and have started watching CNBC as well. Although there seems to be a lot of time fillers on that channel when there's not much going on?

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More Details on Researching Companies

Some of the factors that may affect the performance of a company:
  1. The company - including management
  2. The environment - including customers
  3. The industry at large
  4. The general economy
  5. The political climate

Today they were reporting that Trump has announced that he might impose a 5% tariff on imports, and this is what happened to the share prices of some of the big-name stores:
Wal-Mart, Target, Macy's Drop Amid Tariff Talk
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Shares of retail behemoth Wal-Mart closed down 2.3% at 69.59 on the stock market today, diving below their 50- and 200-day averages. Target sank 4.4%, Macy's lost 3.6% and Nordstrom plunged 5.8%. Amazon dipped 0.55%. Fresh signs of weak in-store traffic didn't help.

But apparel chains, which rely heavily on cheap imports, were hit especially hard. Gap (GPS) tumbled 5.35%, Abercrombie & Fitch (ANF) 6.3% and American Eagle Outfitters (AEO) 6.3%.

Trump has already threatened to impose a 35% tariff on companies that move production outside the U.S. and import goods back in, hitting shares of carmakers like Ford (F) and General Motors (GM) that have factories in Mexico.

CNBC was saying Trump's tax cuts won't likely be enough to offset the tariff, so even ULTA dropped 2% today.

Not sure if may have to go back to the drawing board and consider different picks?
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Old 12-23-2016, 02:35 PM   #134
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Almost turkey day!


Have posted this vid before in my old thread, but the awesome dance moves make it extra-festive, and hopefully worthy of a double post ...

Am no break until the New Year - wish poker was still playable, but oh well ... lots of other fun stuff to do over the holidays


Meeting up with a friend for coffee and a gift exchange this afternoon - hope everybody's having a nice day!


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Happy Holidays!






Christmas Eve for us is usually a quiet day spent with the family watching holiday specials on tv, and prepping for the whirlwind of activity that's about to hit the next couple of days




All my aunts and uncles and cousins are coming over for dinner tomorrow - we feast, watch movies, and play board games ... still haven't watched that $5 movie from Walmart so that may be in play, will see lol ...

After helping my Mom out in the kitchen tonight, may check out the sales online - the stores only closed an hour or two ago, and it looks like Boxing Day's *already* getting started?




Hope everybody has a wonderful holidays!


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We wound up watching Beauty and the Beast on tv - and then i wound up watching some of it again on the West Coast channel ... sooo good!

Anybody actually going to the mall tomorrow? Could swear some of the prices don't change much from what they were yesterday ... except maybe for holiday wrap. So may duck out to try and stock up for next year.

Also, my nephews arrive tomorrow!

We've saved some of the presents for opening until tomorrow - although there's never usually too much surprise about what we're getting because we all trade lists ... cat slippers, yes!

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Old 12-26-2016, 08:15 PM   #137
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Turns out one of my nephews got sick overnight, so they won't be coming for another couple of days. So wound up going to the mall after all ... along with the rest of humanity ...

So hot in the mall!


Guess will have time to go back to looking at more stuff - will do that in a bit
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Old 12-26-2016, 10:57 PM   #138
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Selling High


Guess if we're trying to buy low and sell high, then as soon as new shares have been bought, will maybe want to:
1. Try and keep track to make sure everything's going as hoped,
2. And keep on the lookout for signs that things might be starting to take a turn?

Not sure when will be the ideal time to sell after that - maybe before the share price starts to take a turn? Although maybe it won't be so clear when things might be about to take a turn, or if a company's possibly just hit a temporary bump in the road?



Analyst Recommendations


Guess any time there's uncertainty, opinions can very? On the one hand, there was that Domino's article recommending selling (http://www.marketwatch.com/story/why...all-2016-05-18) because:
1. their earnings were starting to fall short of analyst estimates
2. they started to borrow money to pump up estimates using accounting tricks

And there's more analyst stuff on this page on nasdaq.com, where analysts are also collectively predicting the price of Domino's stock might go down slightly next year ...

It's interesting to see the range of price estimates though - because it looks like someone still thinks they might do really well next year and that there's a chance DPZ could rise all the way up to $195? While someone else thinks it could go as low as $132?

Have been trying to read through annual reports, and look at financial reporting on my own to see if that might help - not so sure it helped as much as being able to see what the analysts were recommending though?


PLAN: It's nice to have Domino's as a test case - will be able to watch this stock and see how the analysts do in predicting how things might go for them in the coming year. Hopefully they're predictions will be fairly accurate, and then will be able to rely on analyst predictions in the future?

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Old 12-27-2016, 01:05 AM   #139
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Considering One More Stock: Facebook (FB)


Hadn't spent too much time looking at Facebook because they haven't done super well this year - but just noticed that the analysts on nasdaq.com are expecting FB to go as high as $157 next year:

On the other hand, there was this article explaining why there was the big price drop in October, even before Trump got elected - which doesn't sounds as encouraging:

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Here's Why Facebook (FB) Stock Is Down Today

Facebook fell in after-hours trading because the company noted that, although ad revenues will continue to grow, they will face tougher year-over-year comparisons in the coming quarters. Facebook also noted that ad load, which has been a leading factor driving ad revenues, won’t be a big factor after mid-2017. The company said ad revenue rates will “come down meaningfully” as a result.

Facebook also has bold plans to become much more than a social media company, and its report detailed plans to increase investments significantly in 2017. The company plans to go on a hiring spree in the spring, and it also wants to start building more data centers, which could cut into near-term earnings. Fundamentally, Facebook remains relatively sound. However, the company sees somewhat of a plateau in the near future, and that’s enough to have investors worrying a bit. Not even Zuckerberg and friends can continue to grow at shocking rates forever.

While another article says people may be overreacting and that now may be a good time to pick up shares that might be undervalued: http://fortune.com/2016/11/03/facebook-stock/


Wonder if those estimates are reliable - wouldn't that be something if their share price were to really rise that high? Will have to keep reading to see what other people see in Facebook's future?


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Old 12-27-2016, 01:45 AM   #140
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Here's the Fortune article that was more positive about Facebook's drop in price in October - maybe more reliable because it relies on a group of analysts, and isn't just one person's opinion?
http://fortune.com/2016/11/03/facebook-stock/

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Why Facebook’s Stock Drop Makes It a Better Buy

The social network may have forecast slowing revenue growth and higher investments next year, but it remains a strong long-term bet, according to an overwhelming majority of brokerages.

By "slower" Facebook means less than the 56% growth the company managed in the third quarter.

Analysts also noted that Facebook's comments on "ad load" and heavy investment in talent and data centers were not new and that there was nothing to suggest that the company's spectacular run was coming to an end.

Ad loads are the number of ads that can be displayed to customers without alienating them. The issue is particularly important for Facebook since 90% of its users access the social network through mobile devices.

This person did a nice analysis of all the analysis
http://www.profitconfidential.com/st...plit-fb-stock/

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This Is What’s Causing One Analyst to Warn Against Facebook Stock

Facebook Inc (NASDAQ:FB) and FB stock investors face what may be a crossroads, as some analysts remain bullish on the stock while one analyst predicts a fall by as much as 30%. FB stock has had a solid 2016, gaining 13% year-to-date.

FB stock recently fell 5.5%, despite an excellent Q3 report, mainly due to the belief that ad sales, which were a large part of the of the 56% revenue growth over the same period last year, were going to slow in the next quarter. This came after Facebook CFO David Wehner said as much during a conference call, believing that Facebook has reached its ad limit per page, and will explore other avenues of revenue.

Some analysts see this as the beginning of a steep drop for FB stock.

[However], of 49 brokerages covering Facebook stock, 45 have given it a “buy” or higher rating. Several analysts have also noted that Facebook’s warning about slowing ad load revenue was nothing new, and that Wehner has pointed this out in previous quarterly reports.

While there seems to be more analysts on the bullish side versus the bearish, at the same time, the risk of a 30% decline might be enough to keep some investors away.

There was also these quotes from an analyst on Reuters:
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-fa...-idUSKBN12Y1YW

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Drop in Facebook's stock makes for good time to connect: analysts

Piper Jaffray analyst Gene Munster, who reiterated his "overweight" rating, said Facebook was making the right investments, "which should pay off in spades during 2018+."

"There are several consumer and ad innovations that should keep advertiser demand high (for Facebook)," said Canaccord Genuity analyst Michael Graham.

"We believe Facebook's operating momentum, high growth and reasonable valuation continue to suggest it should be a core tech holding."

The analysts sound pretty confident that Facebook should do just fine - will be so sad if it winds up really doing well next year, and miss out on the big gain Guess if it's solid, maybe it wouldn't hurt to wait a year for them to develop new revenue streams?

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Still slightly tempted to buy a little bit of Facebook - will have to ponder the options in my jammies because it's time for bed

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happy holidays, sam. i hope you're enjoying the time with your family...
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Hey, viper!


Wasn't sure anybody was still reading - haven't been making as much progress as your Index Funds probably have But guess everybody has to start somewhere ...


Thanks so much for the well-wishes - hope you're having a very wonderful holidays as well!
Happy Holidays viper!! Cheers!!


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Not sure it's the greatest day to go skating - guess we shall see

Hope everybody's having a nice day!
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Since my nephews aren't arriving until tomorrow, actually had time to return one of their gifts and get a better one for cheaper




Which meant spending part of my day waiting in another line, zzz - guess it was also a chance to check out all the other gifts people were returning though ... looks like the chocolate fondue fountain, and the foot-tall talking stormtrooper weren't huge hits

There also seemed to be lots of couch potato type gifts - a mini-fridge, tv trays, a foot massager, a space heater ... guess everyone in Canada must do the same thing at night: sit around in our jammies and watch mediocre tv ...

Wonder what's on tonight lol
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More Facebook (FB) Stuff


Looking at their share price gains, year by year, it looks like Facebook has been slowing down for a while?

Although, went to double-check the price to see if it was in line with earnings at gurufocus.com - and it seems to be showing that the share should be doing better than it is ... closer to the red dot?

So it looks like it's pretty underpriced like Google. Guess some of it might be the Trump anti-bubble that seemed to hit a lot of tech stocks after the election - and then maybe the rest is people worried about Facebook's growth slowing down in the future?

Although the analysts seem to think people are overreacting.


CONCLUSION: Maybe FB is a more risky stock - with the potential to grow more in the short-term next year, but also the potential to not grow as much as it *should*, due to the uncertainty of what lies ahead for them in the long-term future?
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Can't wait to pick up some shares, and for those tax cuts to get passed by Congress - have tried to pick stocks that in the very least won't decline in price ... and will hopefully increase!

Hopefully the stock market does really well next year, and we all do well as well
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Have still been checking Yahoo Finance for articles every day, but it seems like everything's been pretty quiet because of the holidays?

So couldn't come up with anything else to look at right now - guess will take a break from looking at stock stuff for the rest of the week and just enjoy my nephews' visit, and hopefully things'll start picking up again in the New Year?

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Hey SA!


Was looking at that a while ago - guess did they develop some sort of gaming computer that learns, or something like that? What a year they've had - wow! Looks like many of your picks have done super well

Mine not so much


Have seen the WYNN stock on several peoples' lists for 2017, and DB seems to be on fire - really hope lots of stocks do well in 2017 the way people are expecting ... maybe we can all retire by the end of next year


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