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05-22-2015 , 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Bighurt52235
Did you actually read the linked Pot Sweetener thread? I would guess not. It's satirical and not complimentary.
I read the initial post that said it was a theory


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Originally Posted by BlazinAces
This isn't something I would normally do, but it was an idea I had, so I'm not sure what the hypothetical sizing would be. Be Bet sizing is probably my most prominent leak, are there sizing guidelines?
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05-22-2015 , 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Bighurt52235
She just knew. There's no explanation for it. Lol. Just like when she assigned the dude a range of 88-TT when she had JJ. If he happened to have one of those, she would have known she was good.
Yea, because of how the action went I underestimated his range on the flop. GG. I'm sure you've never done that, so keep up the needle LOL
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05-22-2015 , 02:09 PM
Can I not delete posts on the app? Just don't feel like getting into it.

G'luck.

Last edited by JMurder3; 05-22-2015 at 02:17 PM. Reason: Meh
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05-22-2015 , 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by JMurder3
A range is a complete set of possible holdings. Putting people on hands is almost as bad as raising to see where you're at when you're trying to get better at the game.

You can discount certain portions of ranges because it is less likely that an opponent has them based on the line & your knowledge of that person's tendencies.

You can determine that you're more likely than not to be ahead of a range, or that you have the requisite pot odds to call even if not ahead, but you need a lot more information to KNOW that JT is good there. On balance it could certainly still be the correct call, though.

Out of idle curiosity, why couldn't he have had QJ or KJ. Are those auto 3-bets pre OOP against a tight player for him?
Like I said, I would expect a 3bet from him in that spot PF with any playable hand. I had watched him 3bet pretty liberally in BB with PP and any 2 high cards, no 3bet pre told me he didn't have 2 high cards or PP. I can't really be results oriented in a spot where my JT can't fade a river against J4. Could probably raise bigger pf to avoid a situation like that, but at the same time I'm not sure how willing I would be to risk pot committing myself. I'm sure there is a different line I could have taken that would have resulted in a win, I think a bigger raise or fold pf is the alternative to what I did. -___-
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05-22-2015 , 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by BlazinAces
The guy was defending all of his bbs, and I wasn't playing any hands so I knew if he had anything other than a POS hand he was raising pre. When he lead the flop I figured he didn't have 2 pair already (J8, 85, J5) bc I think he would have checked to me hoping for a bet or to lead turn, maybe do the same with middle or bottom pair? When he 3bet me all in I contemplated if he may have flopped a set (but again I feel like he's raising PP pre) so I put him on TP with a weak kicker on the flop. I was confident with my T kicker in that spot as being ahead. I don't see how he'd not raise pre if he had a better hand, guy was opening hands he wanted to play
analysis has unlocked impressive level
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05-22-2015 , 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by BlazinAces
Yea, because of how the action went I underestimated his range on the flop. GG. I'm sure you've never done that, so keep up the needle LOL


The point was you don't ever "know" that your pair is good until the cards are turned up. You underestimated his range because of the action? The action was, he raised, and then someone lead into him, and he raised again.

Did you read the whole post about the "theory". Dude said there were several limps, he then doubled it to $4 with JJ. Then when the flop comes AKQ, he says it's a good flop for the hand because nobody has AA, KK, QQ because they didn't ship pre. Its obv a joke.
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05-22-2015 , 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Bighurt52235
The point was you don't ever "know" that your pair is good until the cards are turned up. You underestimated his range because of the action? The action was, he raised, and then someone lead into him, and he raised again.

Did you read the whole post about the "theory". Dude said there were several limps, he then doubled it to $4 with JJ. Then when the flop comes AKQ, he says it's a good flop for the hand because nobody has AA, KK, QQ because they didn't ship pre. Its obv a joke.
You must be a winner, I totally missed the joke.
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05-22-2015 , 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by BlazinAces
Like I said, I would expect a 3bet from him in that spot PF with any playable hand. I had watched him 3bet pretty liberally in BB with PP and any 2 high cards, no 3bet pre told me he didn't have 2 high cards or PP. I can't really be results oriented in a spot where my JT can't fade a river against J4. Could probably raise bigger pf to avoid a situation like that, but at the same time I'm not sure how willing I would be to risk pot committing myself. I'm sure there is a different line I could have taken that would have resulted in a win, I think a bigger raise or fold pf is the alternative to what I did. -___-
The results aren't the problem. The result, (getting it in good) is exactly what you want. It's the thought process that needs work.

Like I said, it could 100% be the completely right read, & he could very rarely be ahead, but you skipped a couple levels of thought that are important if one wants to get really good at the game.

I deleted my comment for a reason, though (apparently too late), I just don't want to get into it.

G'luck in all endeavors.
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05-22-2015 , 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by JMurder3
The results aren't the problem. The result, (getting it in good) is exactly what you want. It's the thought process that needs work.

Like I said, it could 100% be the completely right read, & he could very rarely be ahead, but you skipped a couple levels of thought that are important if one wants to get really good at the game.

I deleted my comment for a reason, though (apparently too late), I just don't want to get into it.

G'luck in all endeavors.
Ty, I'll work on where I'm missing steps in my thought process for sure.. definitely understand and appreciate the feed back on this..
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05-22-2015 , 02:53 PM
I'm late to the party and havent read anything beyond the first 2 pages yet but I just want to say good luck with everything you do

I wish you success
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05-22-2015 , 04:01 PM
I would erase all memories of thinking someone is 3betting OOP with QJ/KJ against a perceived tight raiser in a $1/$2 live game. It's possible sometimes but i think it's more like spotting a bear in the suburbs.

for someone with "relatively" little experience your thought process is mature. Youre getting some good hand advice here if you can wade through the criticism. Keep plugging. Every day we don't get better is a day we fall behind someone else
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05-22-2015 , 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by vookenmeister
I would erase all memories of thinking someone is 3betting OOP with QJ/KJ against a perceived tight raiser in a $1/$2 live game. It's possible sometimes but i think it's more like spotting a bear in the suburbs.

for someone with "relatively" little experience your thought process is mature. Youre getting some good hand advice here if you can wade through the criticism. Keep plugging. Every day we don't get better is a day we fall behind someone else
I was playing the 7pm $125 Aria daily tournament in reference to this hand, does this advice change in respect to that?

But yea, in his spot, not wanting to 3bet and have to deal with the post flop play if my 3bet gets called, or if I'm 4bet losing my 3bet might be my biggest reason I flat or fold.. situational of course, I might change my mind if I was showing down hands like suited connectors in a pot that had action pf, then I might 3b KJ,QJ OOP in his spot, but if I'm in his spot defending BB with a lot of hands I check/flat to see a flop but I'm folding my J4 when my flop bet gets raised. Can't really see how he 3b shoves all in against me with TP and weak kicker lol I want him too all day until he fades a river on me
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05-22-2015 , 04:52 PM
How many runners @ Aria? I'm trying to decide whether to go Aria or Orleans tomorrow @ 7. Orleans is $25 bounties with avg of 80-115 w/ re-entries tho
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05-23-2015 , 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by BlazinAces
I was playing the 7pm $125 Aria daily tournament in reference to this hand, does this advice change in respect to that?

But yea, in his spot, not wanting to 3bet and have to deal with the post flop play if my 3bet gets called, or if I'm 4bet losing my 3bet might be my biggest reason I flat or fold.. situational of course, I might change my mind if I was showing down hands like suited connectors in a pot that had action pf, then I might 3b KJ,QJ OOP in his spot, but if I'm in his spot defending BB with a lot of hands I check/flat to see a flop but I'm folding my J4 when my flop bet gets raised. Can't really see how he 3b shoves all in against me with TP and weak kicker lol I want him too all day until he fades a river on me
I like your thought process. Keep thinking ranges and how to react to them. As you know the ranges will depend on your reads. If that's how you read his range I like how you played the hand.

Yes. The aria $125 1pm and 7pms actually catch a mix of some solid players. It makes a difference and if your reads are right the hand ranges will vary a lot more. There are def good villains who know you should 3bet defend your BB with a polarized range of your strong hands and your hands you would normally barely fold. Assuming stacks aren't an issue you can then
React to the 4bet by continuing confidently with your monsters and folding with your Polarized weak side (unless you are going to continue the charade with a high level 5bet bluff - I'm not good enough for that)


I'm folding J4 thiugh like you said. I think KQ/QJ like hands are Normally too strong to fold but not strong enough to 3bet. I don't like 3betting KQ and having to fold to a 4bet or even getting called OOP and having to continue. I'd rather 3bet my suited connectors and borderline hands.

Hope this makes sense. I'm typing on a phone as well

Cliff notes: don't 3bet just to 3bet steal on the fly. Instead, widen your 3bet Range in spots (most people don't as a leak) but do it by assigning more borderline fold hands you would 3bet with and not just deciding on the fly to 3bet junk. That said sometimes I just say screw it and 3bet junk. I prob shouldn't. Peace out.
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05-23-2015 , 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by vookenmeister
I like your thought process. Keep thinking ranges and how to react to them. As you know the ranges will depend on your reads. If that's how you read his range I like how you played the hand.

Yes. The aria $125 1pm and 7pms actually catch a mix of some solid players. It makes a difference and if your reads are right the hand ranges will vary a lot more. There are def good villains who know you should 3bet defend your BB with a polarized range of your strong hands and your hands you would normally barely fold. Assuming stacks aren't an issue you can then
React to the 4bet by continuing confidently with your monsters and folding with your Polarized weak side (unless you are going to continue the charade with a high level 5bet bluff - I'm not good enough for that)


I'm folding J4 thiugh like you said. I think KQ/QJ like hands are Normally too strong to fold but not strong enough to 3bet. I don't like 3betting KQ and having to fold to a 4bet or even getting called OOP and having to continue. I'd rather 3bet my suited connectors and borderline hands.

Hope this makes sense. I'm typing on a phone as well

Cliff notes: don't 3bet just to 3bet steal on the fly. Instead, widen your 3bet Range in spots (most people don't as a leak) but do it by assigning more borderline fold hands you would 3bet with and not just deciding on the fly to 3bet junk. That said sometimes I just say screw it and 3bet junk. I prob shouldn't. Peace out.
not currrently but i plan myself on playing dailies soon enough ironically probaly after wsop maybe during depending on work but i look forwwrd to playing with people from here especially contributors to this thread GL Blazin
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05-23-2015 , 10:14 PM
This thread has a lot of great advice for beginning players in how to analyze and think on the felt. Before, I thought this would be a useless thread but I think that OP has stumbled into a ton of great feedback on her play (which definitely needs some feedback.)

Too bad about the Venetian ban. I don't mind people getting high but you gotta know the risks of doing it on casino property or any property that isn't home. If you are gonna play poker professionally, you should be careful about mixing work and pleasure. You wouldn't smoke at work or get drunk at work so don't do it at the casinos you play at or will play at in the future.

Have fun at Red Rock Canyon. Vegas is a great place beyond the strip. There is lots to explore and that place is one of my favs.

I would say stick to cash games for the time being to get in a flow. Switching between tourney and cash mindset can be tough, especially when you're starting out.

Good luck again!
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05-24-2015 , 11:18 AM
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This thread has a lot of great advice for beginning players in how to analyze and think on the felt. Before, I thought this would be a useless thread but I think that OP has stumbled into a ton of great feedback on her play (which definitely needs some feedback.)

Too bad about the Venetian ban. I don't mind people getting high but you gotta know the risks of doing it on casino property or any property that isn't home. If you are gonna play poker professionally, you should be careful about mixing work and pleasure. You wouldn't smoke at work or get drunk at work so don't do it at the casinos you play at or will play at in the future.

Have fun at Red Rock Canyon. Vegas is a great place beyond the strip. There is lots to explore and that place is one of my favs.

I would say stick to cash games for the time being to get in a flow. Switching between tourney and cash mindset can be tough, especially when you're starting out.

Good luck again!
well said
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05-24-2015 , 09:27 PM
So this week I've been putting in more hours on the felt and have been able to isolate some of my major leaks. I feel as though I have made progress in refining my game strategy, as well as balancing life outside of poker with more productive activities.

Some pictures on my drive from this week

https://drive.google.com/folderview?...zg&usp=sharing

Hope everyone is ready for the WSOP, because I sure am!
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05-28-2015 , 10:10 PM
You playing any WSOP events?
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05-29-2015 , 05:28 AM
I played with the OP for three hours in a 10PM deep stack at the Rio on Thursday night. She impressively snap folded jacks while showing them to me (I was in the seat next to her) in a hand where I might have had a bit more trouble. Villain showed kings.

She was friendly to everyone at the table and was playing great. I got knocked out midway through the tournament but she still had a good stack. I hope she did well in the event and hopefully has a few good scores during the WSOP. Very nice to meet you and best of luck!
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05-29-2015 , 06:37 AM
Wish I had time to read all 45 pages. subscribed for updates. Hoping I can find the time to get to Vegas this WSOP. Good Luck out there.
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05-29-2015 , 10:45 AM
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You playing any WSOP events?
the post where she says her "backer" flaked out is coming very soon.....
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05-29-2015 , 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by TrueAlbatross
I played with the OP for three hours in a 10PM deep stack at the Rio on Thursday night. She impressively snap folded jacks while showing them to me (I was in the seat next to her) in a hand where I might have had a bit more trouble. Villain showed kings.

She was friendly to everyone at the table and was playing great. I got knocked out midway through the tournament but she still had a good stack. I hope she did well in the event and hopefully has a few good scores during the WSOP. Very nice to meet you and best of luck!
It was fun playing with you! I cashed 16th out of the 151 runners, it was so much fun! I ran so pure all night Every time my table broke I walked right into fading full boards with QQ like 3 times
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05-29-2015 , 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by reno911
You playing any WSOP events?
I'm hoping to play the Ladies event, that's the most likely. I'll 100% be putting in a ton of hours during this summer since this is the reason I came to play poker in Vegas. I'm definitely going to be playing cash in several places, and possibly playing a lot of deepstacks if I can consistently make deep runs. It seems like a super soft field, I'm running super pure and playing even better so if I bink in one of those my plan would be to play the Ladies, and add Milly and Monster. Even if I don't bink, my goal is to log 300 hours minimum before the Main.
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05-29-2015 , 04:43 PM
The last two weeks I've been getting solid coaching. I think I've found my groove. I didn't limp or min raise a single hand in the deepstack.

I am also in a great mindset. I'm super focused while I play and I don't tilt win or lose. Last week I found myself in some spots where I knew I was beat and was calling off just to prove myself right because I couldn't find the fold button (Lol) but I've been able to convince myself to fold and trust my reads a bit more. I'm also getting extremely lucky. I got it all in pre flop with QQ when he 4bet jammed KK and I spiked a Q on the river lol

This summer is going to be amazing for sure

I'll be around Rio with my Teddy Bear Blue in my book bag as my good luck charm

Good luck to every one who is playing!
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