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Old 03-12-2015, 06:33 PM   #26
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Re: Cause and effect

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you seem sincere so I want to help.

You gotta start thinking to yourself, "what is the trigger and what is the result," and kinda remember that the result doesn't trigger anything.

The opposite of the result can be the opposite of the trigger, but that is another story. I hope that helps.

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Old 03-12-2015, 06:45 PM   #27
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Like for example, when you read in The Bible about when the liar Lucifer, or "Lucy" for short (yes, the girl's name), showed up on Earth and tried, with all his effort, but failed to defeat God's son Jesus, our Lord And Savior. Lucifer showing up was necessary (a result), but not sufficient (a trigger). Do you get it?

Sure Lucifer tempted, tricked, and hurt Jesus. He pulled out all the stops I'm sure. Very true. But what happened? Oh yeah, Satan got his ass whooped

Maybe Lucifer's evil minions thought when Lucifer showed against God's son Jesus that they had won. I dunno?!?! Or maybe it was just the really, really dumb angel/minions who thought that?!!? And the handicapable ones realized that wasn't the case. The evil angles and minions were probably cheering for Lucifer the whole time; it didn't help their cause. I guess you could say they got cause and effect wrong and believed what a liar told them

Lucifer is too proud to admit it though, even though he knows the Higher Power defeated him, and That Higher Power will continually defeat him

I hope that helps

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Like another poster said, can't remember who and is irrelevant, great blog.
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Old 03-13-2015, 01:56 PM   #29
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I somehow always had a vague suspicion that religion and formal logic are not really compatible.

On the side note: A russian woman sewed a costume for the family dog. The husband didn't know anything. Then one evening husband came home and the dog in the costume run to greet him.
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Old 03-14-2015, 03:32 PM   #30
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I wonder about Robin Agrees. I wonder what for he got banned and how is he doing.

Sometimes I feel normal. Just in this moment not so much. One of the cool things here, is that I feel free to live out my not normal. More than in any therapy. But I would like to feel more normal and calm now. So after blogging I am gonna try the magic of yoga and burpees. 15 min yoga + 100 burpees +15 min yoga and see how my mind will react.
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Old 03-14-2015, 04:33 PM   #31
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I somehow always had a vague suspicion that religion and formal logic are not really compatible.
Do you mean like... when we don't comprehend what the higher power is telling us?!?! Do you get that Jesus defeated Lucifer?

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Old 03-15-2015, 04:21 AM   #32
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Do you mean like... when we don't comprehend what the higher power is telling us?!?! Do you get that Jesus defeated Lucifer?

i mean like use of the words trigger, result, necessary condition, sufficient condition.
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Old 03-15-2015, 04:55 AM   #33
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Burpees and yoga did the job. Difficulty was to make myself do them.

Was thinking about words. How much do the words influence/create reality. What is the difference between writing an intention and clearly label it as an intention, writing an intention and label it like already performed action, writing about something what is not directly our action, like it already happened.

I wrote yesterday my intention of doing this small work-out. Clearly it helped me then to really work-out. I think that the human brain is made the way, that we like to speak the truth. So if we say something the natural inclination is to make it truth. This means that writing an intention so as if it is already performed action will really increase the probability, that we then do that.

But how is that with the things, upon which are not directly our action. I will write here 5 things. Some of them are truth some not. And I want to see if more of them will become truth in the next 2 weeks.


One certain friend of mine fell in love
I lost 5 kg in the last month
Today I got an invitation for a job interview in Hamburg
My mom said that she is proud of me
One of my friends separates from his spouse
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Old 03-15-2015, 09:45 AM   #34
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I am drunk. 2 glasse of champain is enough for me. I have read here a really cool blog: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/17...l#post46373316

it made me realize that I am treating myself like my mom treats me and that is somehow really not good. I vow to be nicer to myself.

I have registered on russian facebook. I am born in former Sovijet Union, in a part that is now Kasachstan (Yes Borat is my country man ). So it was funny to see some people whom I haven't seen for more than 20 years. And it made me realize another thing. I am like having a double life. And it was always so, even when I was 11. Now I have this part: successfull fit cool overachiever.... bla bla bla and at the same time poker playing, depressive (OK definitely not depressive any more) unsecure, crazy, lazy girl with funny ideas. What I am more...... i have no idea.

But even when I was 11, I was on one side straight A student with BIG respect for authorities, dream of every parent. And on the other side I have really done not so straight things. i was boss of a certain teacher assistant club, I mean like a straight A student and so on, and I totally have used the power which comes with this position. So this testing the limits was somehow always in me. And the funny thing is, that I totally forgot this not so rule obeying part from my childhood. I had build in my head a reality of me being authority respecting, socially awkward nerd. And somehow that is definitely only part of the truth.
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Old 03-15-2015, 10:55 AM   #35
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I am drunk. 2 glasse of champain is enough for me. I have read here a really cool blog: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/17...l#post46373316

it made me realize that I am treating myself like my mom treats me and that is somehow really not good. I vow to be nicer to myself.

I have registered on russian facebook. I am born in former Sovijet Union, in a part that is now Kasachstan (Yes Borat is my country man ). So it was funny to see some people whom I haven't seen for more than 20 years. And it made me realize another thing. I am like having a double life. And it was always so, even when I was 11. Now I have this part: successfull fit cool overachiever.... bla bla bla and at the same time poker playing, depressive (OK definitely not depressive any more) unsecure, crazy, lazy girl with funny ideas. What I am more...... i have no idea.

But even when I was 11, I was on one side straight A student with BIG respect for authorities, dream of every parent. And on the other side I have really done not so straight things. i was boss of a certain teacher assistant club, I mean like a straight A student and so on, and I totally have used the power which comes with this position. So this testing the limits was somehow always in me. And the funny thing is, that I totally forgot this not so rule obeying part from my childhood. I had build in my head a reality of me being authority respecting, socially awkward nerd. And somehow that is definitely only part of the truth.
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Old 03-16-2015, 12:55 PM   #36
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One certain friend of mine fell in love
I lost 5 kg in the last month
Today I got an invitation for a job interview in Hamburg
My mom said that she is proud of me
One of my friends separates from his spouse
LOL. Two first bullets had been true the moment I wrote them. Three last - not.

Today I got invitations for two job interviews in region of Hamburg.

If my mom ever says something even remotely like, she is proud of me..... That will be Miracle.

And at least until now all my friends are either happily with someone or single. No one is in the process of separation. That is pretty cool.

So i mean again no conclusive proof of connection between writing down of things and things becoming reality. One of the three things had become a reality. But it was also pretty predictable. I think the job here was done not through my writing down of this wish, but rather through working with job application coach.

But if my mom should ever tell that she is proud of me. UIUIUIUIUI !!!,..... Then magic definitely exists.
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Old 03-16-2015, 01:50 PM   #37
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I hope it is magical but I don't think she will You are an inspiration.
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Old 03-17-2015, 03:43 AM   #38
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I hope it is magical but I don't think she will You are an inspiration.
tx. It is really nice to read that. Wonder for what you got banned.
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Old 03-17-2015, 01:05 PM   #39
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About positive framing of future

I have two basic types of motivation: I want to acheive something pleasant or to avoid something unpleasant. On the first glance that is the same, but in reality they are fundamenntally different. First type actually serves to make us eat, have sex, und do things which are pleasant. Second type makes us run away or fight when someone wants to eat us. And although sex and food are clearly imprtant for our survival, but it can be delayed in the future without us dying. To fight or run away can not be delayed when someone wants to eat us. We must act NOW. This means that the second type of motivation is always stronger, more urgent.

What does that mean for situations in today's world. It still remains the same. If we anticipate something unpleasant happening to us, like being rejected, getting fired, embarrassed..... we have extremely strong motivation to avoid it at any cost. This motivation changes with time and has its peak just before the unpleasant event. This kind of motivation does not make me deal with situation, but instead trying to avoid it at any cost.

Completely different situation is if our focus is on possible positive outcome. If we expect not being rejected by a date, but instead good sex, not getting fired, but getting promoted, then we have immediately motivation to do some actions to achieve this pleasant outcome.

It is worth to note, that the peak of the motivation to avoid negative things, is always stronger than the motivation to achieve something positive.

That is also important if we want to make someone else take action. A boyfriend from the past wanted to make me use skype. (Now I clearly use it, but it was years ago). His argumentation for skype was for me a totally negative thing to avoid at any cost: "It is cool and it uses this and that protokol (insert here strange IT stuff, I don't even remember)" And for me it was connected only with additional stress, I didn't see then that it would allow me to connect better with him. So I was all "nooo, neeee, why, don't like.......".

Next boyfriend was better. He said, that if I have skype, I could talk with him every evening and even see him. Next day I had it installed and working.
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Old 03-19-2015, 04:38 AM   #40
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Old 03-19-2015, 05:56 AM   #41
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Whine whine whine

I have to write a report on some last experiments in my current job. And i REALLY REALLY REALLY don't want to. It makes no sense. No one is gonna ever read it, no one needs it, it won't be making anyones life better. And i find it boring drudgery. I just don't want to invest time in writing it. Blurg. Mehhhhh. hate that. The only reason to write it is, that I promised to do that.
Lesson learned: think more before agreeing to deliver something.

I hate that. I am so dumb. Why did i say yes? I have to do it fast and dirty to not get annoyed any more, than I already am. So tonight it is gonna be done. Blurg.
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Old 03-20-2015, 02:44 AM   #42
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How reality is build

I have a very good friend with Asperger. He often says things, for which I would punch everyone else in the face. With him, I just know, that he doesn't want to be mean, he is actually a nicest person I know and a really good friend.

We chat a lot. And it is often that I am writing and writing and writing walls of text with something what made me upset or some BIG unsolvable problems and his response is just one sentence: "No one cares". As that had happened first time, I thought "How can he say that. It is so important to me. He should at least pretend to care". As it happened again and again, I noticed, that it has actually strangely calming effect on me. The problems I described became smaller after the statement that no one cares about them. My reality was changed.

I think that a part of how we see the world, how our personal reality looks like, is a reflection of a feedback we get from our social environment. It is basically how the small child learns about he world. It points to the things and then grown-ups say something like "That is a table. Or that is a chair". The same remains also when we grow-up. We present things (problems, opinions, descriptions) to our environment. We get a feedback and then we adjust our reality.

I have to think more about practial implications of that.

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Old 03-22-2015, 07:22 AM   #43
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Spent 2 hours cleaning my kitchen. It is still far from perfect or even well enough, but it is significantly better than it was. The chores are somehow always on last place on my priority list.

Preparing for my job interview next friday. I really want to have an "YES" from them. Preparation is the key. Going through my introduction talk and possible questions.

Need to work-out more. Now I am at meagerly two 30 min work-outs a week. Want to up it to two 2 hours work-outs somewhen on the week-ends and three 30 min in the week. The problem is time and that I find working out ubelievably boring. I mean the only entertainment value is, when I am trying something what is not in the routine and then I can't do that and after some times it suddenly goes. I have to try to download some podcasts or something for my ears, because now I am always counting minutes until work-out is over. That is really bad prerequisite to up it from 30 min to two hours.

Generally with magic thing.

The only part, which remains mystireious is that my mom is still on track with loosing weight. Third month in a row. Before I pestered her for years and she tried but it somehow never worked. This chrismass we had a deal. I let my hair grow and keep it blond (That is how my mom wants to see me), although my preference is short and my natural color, and she looses weight. Totally works. I am so proud of her. May be just a live variance. But as long as it works it is good, whatever it is.

All other parts with wishes becoming true and so on. It is basically always subconscious usage of additional information, which i do have or/and working my ass off.

Some experiments are still on my to do list. Like poker and feng shui and generally stuff under titel "how changing of my surrounding influences my functioning".
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Old 03-24-2015, 03:54 AM   #44
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If you have to do something in what you absolutely don't see any sense, but for some reason you have to, then:
do it dirty
divide the task into microscopic tasks and pat yourself on the shoulder/reward yourself for every microscopic thing done (I have inserted now one picture in one of my reports and totally patting myself on the shoulder, how good am I)
do it, don't procrastinate, because it won't magically disappear

I am now in the situation........ Blurg.

Had yesterday test job interview with a friend. It has been a disaster. And that although it is my sixth in the last four months and I already have done better. But I really want this job. It is in the commuting distance from Hamburg. I was so nervous even with a test, that i forgot half of the things I needed to say and spoke with to many interruptions and couldn't find a good expression to often. It was bad. Am now trying it again before a mirror and in the evening second test run.
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About using your voice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02EJ1IdC6tE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIho2S0ZahI.
That is a part on which I am working now: the right delivery of the message I want to come across in a job interview.
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Old 03-24-2015, 11:57 AM   #46
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god, almost typed in another blog
"What a bore"
"Why again did you start that", then thought came, that I could type the same here.
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I am debating with myself about should I eat a chocolate bar, or should I not for two hours now. This means I can basically survive without pretty well. But I am tired and I always eat when I am tired. HO! Just decided I will let it live at least a day longer.

Second test run with my job interview went better. I would say even that it was ok. I will still obsess about this interview until it is over, and it is still no guarantee, like having AA does not guarantee winning a hand. But now I have done everything I could.

It is funny, how writing it down helped to decide what I am gonna do with this chocolate bar. My brain has been going in circles "eat not eat eat not". But somehow writing helped to pull out to the surface all arguments for not eating it.

And I am gonna to spend in the next days some money for new computer . That one
http://www.heise.de/preisvergleich/d...loc=at&hloc=de
I hate buying gadgets, computers, phones and such stuff. I feel always so overwhelmed, like probably most men feel buying clothes. And I procrastinated that so long, that now I really have to.
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I ate to much and am suffering now like a dog from to full stomach. Why did I do that to myself? Good question. I don't have a good answer.

What is successful? I mean I understand something like "successful in poker" or "has a successful career". But what do people mean, when they say just "I want to be successful"?

Is, to be always positive, something good? I am not so sure. I don't believe people, who claim to be always positive. I think that everyone feels sometimes pure sheer FRUSTRATION. And it is more important to learn to deal with that in a constructive way, than to try to pretend that everything is fine, i'm fine, everyone is fine.

I am not fine now. I am majorly annoyed by myself.
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challenge one: from this second the next 24 hours no sugar including no bananas or grapes or honey melons, no chocolate, no cakes, no white bread, no pasta, no alcohol. Drinking only tea, coffee and water. No sugar in it.

Sometimes I loose it with food, commonly known as binge eating. My weight does not explode only due to a really high exercise load in the following days. I would love to normalize my eating. What I know is that cereals did always set a binge off. So I don't buy any and don't miss it. I still do eat whole grains, only not cereals.

Suspicion is that there are also other foods that do trigger binges for me. Sugar and starchy carbohydrates are suspects. And so I will try not to eat that for the next 24 hours and after I will see what happens and go from that.
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It's over. I don't know. I will get feed-back until next thursday. Somehow I have a feeling that I fked up with a question about salary. Don't want to write any details now.
Feel like my soul has been sucked out.
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