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06-04-2012, 02:33 PM
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old hand
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Chiang Mai
Posts: 1,382
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Peel flop K9 high?
MP 45/8
BTN 30/22, T Cbet 75
PokerStars - $2/$4 (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3
Hero (BB): $54.81
UTG: $76.84
MP: $28.55
CO: $128.82
BTN: $77.00
SB: $151.72
SB posts SB $1.00, Hero posts BB $2.00, UTG posts DB $2.00
Pre Flop: ($5.00) Hero has K  9
UTG checks, fold, fold, BTN raises to $4.00, fold, Hero calls $2.00, UTG calls $2.00
Flop: ($13.00, 3 players) 8  6  8
Hero checks, UTG checks, BTN bets $2.00, Hero
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06-04-2012, 04:20 PM
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#2
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old hand
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Newcastle Upon Tyne, UK
Posts: 1,275
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Re: Peel flop K9 high?
I would peel. BTN can be raising very, very wide here with the dead money in there, especially with the poster indicating a week hand by only checking.. I don't think I'm ballsy enough to raise pre and barrel them off in a bigger pot, but it would be fun.
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06-04-2012, 04:38 PM
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#3
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old hand
Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 1,276
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Re: Peel flop K9 high?
decent c/r with lots of barreling cards depending on response. 8,9 K club, straight cards.
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06-04-2012, 05:08 PM
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#4
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old hand
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Chiang Mai
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Re: Peel flop K9 high?
I'll be c/ring so many draws there already, and I'm ahead of BTN some of the time, so I didn't like the c/r.
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06-04-2012, 07:56 PM
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adept
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 1,091
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Re: Peel flop K9 high?
I peel the flop, unless the poster has an unusually high post flop aggression factor, which is pretty rare in my experiences.
I also don't like a flop C/R.
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06-04-2012, 08:50 PM
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journeyman
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Hamsterdam
Posts: 239
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Re: Peel flop K9 high?
peel flop. a flop raise to force out UTG may be ok also. idk
donk any 9 if its 3way on the turn. MP will check back to often otherwise. maybe donking a 7 could work out as well. c/r any K.
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06-06-2012, 11:02 AM
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Montreal
Posts: 3,668
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Re: Peel flop K9 high?
i dont see anything else but a peel
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06-07-2012, 07:16 AM
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enthusiast
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 50
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Re: Peel flop K9 high?
3-bet preflop
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06-07-2012, 12:47 PM
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adept
Join Date: Jan 2007
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Re: Peel flop K9 high?
Quote:
Originally Posted by bipolarbearclaw
3-bet preflop
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If we know UTG will fold a lot of hands facing a 3-bet, I think this is good. If he doesn't, I think we just put ourselves in a pretty awkward spot with a marginal hand in a big pot out of position.
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06-08-2012, 01:21 AM
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old hand
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Chiang Mai
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Re: Peel flop K9 high?
I had missed that limper was a poster. I actually like a 3 bet as well, but I would just call K7.
If limper was a limper we only have 11% on this flop, which was less than I thought.
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06-08-2012, 12:31 PM
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adept
Join Date: Jan 2007
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Re: Peel flop K9 high?
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Originally Posted by pg_780
I had missed that limper was a poster. I actually like a 3 bet as well, but I would just call K7.
If limper was a limper we only have 11% on this flop, which was less than I thought.
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That number seems low. I just ran a few stoves myself to confirm and I'm coming in around 16-17% equity on the flop.
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06-10-2012, 09:06 PM
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#12
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old hand
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Newcastle Upon Tyne, UK
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Re: Peel flop K9 high?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Slide
That number seems low. I just ran a few stoves myself to confirm and I'm coming in around 16-17% equity on the flop.
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Crucially, he is a limper that checked, rather than a limper that raised. This would make a difference to the equity. Still, it ought to improve our equity not worsen it. Its very player dependent, of course.
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06-11-2012, 01:25 PM
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adept
Join Date: Jan 2007
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Re: Peel flop K9 high?
Quote:
Originally Posted by RedHot
Crucially, he is a limper that checked, rather than a limper that raised. This would make a difference to the equity. Still, it ought to improve our equity not worsen it. Its very player dependent, of course.
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I don't understand your post, how can a limper ever check or raise?
If your referring to a poster, I think that changes the entire dynamic of the hand and we should just 3-bet preflop. My comments on the hand are about a limper specifically.
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06-11-2012, 06:32 PM
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old hand
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Newcastle Upon Tyne, UK
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Re: Peel flop K9 high?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Slide
I don't understand your post, how can a limper ever check or raise?
If your referring to a poster, I think that changes the entire dynamic of the hand and we should just 3-bet preflop. My comments on the hand are about a limper specifically.
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Yes, I meant poster. If you go back and look at the opening post, you will see that UTG posts. Its a very important detail!
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