***Official Stars Regs Thread***

[BrassMonkey]

the total rake paid at low limits is 2.4 BB/100 hands not the rakeback.

I have read (and calculated) that platin is like 22-23% RB and supernova is about 27%

Is that all the bump you get from Platinum to Supernova? Weak - guess I won't hurry to Supernova...

[danzasmack]

i don't understand how it's classified as rb if i don't get $

[milesdyson]

Is that all the bump you get from Platinum to Supernova? Weak - guess I won't hurry to Supernova...

It should be more than a 4-5% increase. In fact, I almost guarantee it is. First of all, you get a better bonus once you hit supernova. Secondly, you earn FPPs 28% faster (4.5/3.5 = 1.28). So if "rakeback" at platinum were 22%, "rakeback" at supernova would be 28%, which is already a 6% increase. On top of that, each FPP is worth more at supernova, so you're probably looking at a 7-8% difference between the two levels.

i don't understand how it's classified as rb if i don't get $

Buying bonuses with your FPPs.

[BrassMonkey]

Buying bonuses with your FPPs.

Does it piss you guys off that you have to play a whole bunch more hands to clear your bonuses that you've earned? The first time I saw that, I was like, "wtf?!". Annoying... I guess it's no big deal to you guys that play 100k hands per month, but at 20k hands per month, it sucks.

[Schwatt]

Stars has the lowest rake on the internet. Looking at PT, I pay 9.7 cents per hand at 6-max, and 7.1 cents per hand at Full Ring.

I am Supernova, and at 2/4 6-max I earn about 2.75 cents per dealt hand using the bonuses you can purchase with FPP's. This works out to between 25-38% RB at 2/4 depending on the average pot sizes, and whether you play 6-max or full ring.

Yes other sites with rakeback have possibly higher earn rate per hour with their higher rake, but the table selection is much worse.

[milesdyson]

Does it piss you guys off that you have to play a whole bunch more hands to clear your bonuses that you've earned? The first time I saw that, I was like, "wtf?!". Annoying... I guess it's no big deal to you guys that play 100k hands per month, but at 20k hands per month, it sucks.

Can someone else comment on this? I didn't think clearing these took very many hands. Either way the points you earn while clearing still generate more FPPs, so it's not a problem.

Now a change of topics because this is kind of lame.

This hand right here demonstrates Poker Stars play bad get there software at its finest.

PokerStars 5/10 Hold'em (4 handed) internettexasholdem.com

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q, J.
1 fold, Button raises, Hero 3-bets, 1 fold, Button caps, Hero calls.

Flop: (9 SB) 9, 3, 8 (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets, Hero calls.

Turn: (5.50 BB) T (2 players)
Hero bets, Button raises, Hero 3-bets, Button caps, Hero calls.

River: (13.50 BB) Q (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets, Hero raises, Button 3-bets, Hero caps, Button calls.

Final Pot: 21.50 BB

Results in white below:
Button has Jc As (straight, queen high).
Hero has Qd Jh (straight, queen high).
Outcome: Button wins 10.75 BB. Hero wins 10.75 BB.

Also, if any of you played with me on 4/10/2007 or 4/11/2007 and saw anything bad, please let me know. I played my best and lost another 60bb.

[F Paulsson]

LAG/luckboxvsme = FPau

where FP stood for fancy play:P

While I can easily accept the critique that I have a tendency towards FPS (it's how I tilt, apparently), I only have about 450 hands on you. I haven't figured out a way to sort "only my hands that where you were dealt in" so I can't get a good picture of how you and I have played against each other, but looking at the first 30 or so hands where you went to showdown (and I therefore know your hole cards) it's clear that you're calling me down very light. I'm guessing I must have done a lot of something during these 450 hands to warrant that, but I'm not so sure what.

I'd like to know though; especially if it's something I still do. My note on you suggests that you should be value bet on the river.

Cheers,
FP

[sethypooh21]

Can someone else comment on this? I didn't think clearing these took very many hands. Either way the points you earn while clearing still generate more FPPs, so it's not a problem.

Now a change of topics because this is kind of lame.

This hand right here demonstrates Poker Stars play bad get there software at its finest.

PokerStars 5/10 Hold'em (4 handed) internettexasholdem.com

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q, J.
1 fold, Button raises, Hero 3-bets, 1 fold, Button caps, Hero calls.

Flop: (9 SB) 9, 3, 8 (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets, Hero calls.

Turn: (5.50 BB) T (2 players)
Hero bets, Button raises, Hero 3-bets, Button caps, Hero calls.

River: (13.50 BB) Q (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets, Hero raises, Button 3-bets, Hero caps, Button calls.

Final Pot: 21.50 BB

Results in white below:
Button has Jc As (straight, queen high).
Hero has Qd Jh (straight, queen high).
Outcome: Button wins 10.75 BB. Hero wins 10.75 BB.

Also, if any of you played with me on 4/10/2007 or 4/11/2007 and saw anything bad, please let me know. I played my best and lost another 60bb.

God, I feel the sameway - I'm still chafing from the 30 BB pot I lost to a guy who capped QT pf/flop/turn with no pair/no draw against AA and hit running tens...I'm running like .25 bb/100 over my last 10k and it would be frustrating if I weren't basically playing on a freeroll right now...

[chezlaw]

Have you guys played vs. pookguy at all? I've found him to be a pain in the ass.

Definite pain in the ass, tad overag imo.

Here's a hand where I'm reluctant to take more initiative as I feel he will correctly fold a lot and probably bet the river a lot but it still seems a bit weak. His W$SH is 48% but only 600 hands.

pookguy open-raises button, I 3 bet AA from SB, BB folds, pookguy calls.

Flop: 853 rainbow

I bet he calls.

Turn: 8

I bet he raises, I call

River: 7

I check-call wondering if I should check-raise.

chez

[kid canepa]

hey i'm new here

[danzasmack]

see u guys at the 5/10 games. not in a place to be eating 5k swings. It's making me cranky/effecting other stuff.

[milesdyson]

hey i'm new here

I've played a bunch with you. I just sifted through the hands I have with you this month. You spew hard. This is only from a sample of 375 hands.


PokerStars 5/10 Hold'em (6 handed) internettexasholdem.com

Preflop: ysscky is MP with K, K.
UTG (Kid Canepa) raises, ysscky 3-bets, 4 folds, UTG :#A500AF(Kid Canepa)/ calls.

Flop: (7.40 SB) 8, J, 2 (2 players)
Kid Canepa checks, ysscky bets, Kid Canepa raises, ysscky 3-bets, Kid Canepa caps, ysscky calls.

Turn: (7.70 BB) 4 (2 players)
Kid Canepa bets, ysscky calls.

River: (9.70 BB) 2 (2 players)
Kid Canepa bets, ysscky calls.

Final Pot: 11.70 BB

Results in white below:
Kid Canepa has Qs Ts (one pair, twos).
ysscky has Kd Ks (two pair, kings and twos).
Outcome: ysscky wins 11.70 BB.


PokerStars 5/10 Hold'em (6 handed) internettexasholdem.com

Preflop: ysscky is SB with 3, 3.
UTG (Kid Canepa) raises, 1 fold, CO calls, 1 fold, ysscky calls, BB calls.

Flop: (8 SB) 6, 7, 3 (4 players)
ysscky checks, BB checks, Kid Canepa bets, CO raises, ysscky 3-bets, BB folds, Kid Canepa caps, CO calls, ysscky calls.

Turn: (10 BB) 5 (3 players)
ysscky bets, Kid Canepa calls, CO folds.

River: (12 BB) T (2 players)
ysscky bets, Kid Canepa calls.

Final Pot: 14 BB

Results in white below:
ysscky has 3h 3s (three of a kind, threes).
Kid Canepa has 7s 9s (one pair, sevens).
Outcome: ysscky wins 14 BB.

PokerStars 5/10 Hold'em (6 handed) internettexasholdem.com

Preflop: ysscky is MP with 2, K.
UTG raises, 2 folds, Button (Kid Canepa) calls, 1 fold, BB calls.

Flop: (6.40 SB) 2, T, 7 (3 players)
BB checks, UTG bets, Kid Canepa raises, BB folds, UTG 3-bets, Kid Canepa calls.

Turn: (6.20 BB) 8 (2 players)
UTG bets, Kid Canepa raises, UTG calls.

River: (10.20 BB) A (2 players)
UTG checks, Kid Canepa bets, UTG calls.

Final Pot: 12.20 BB

Results in white below:
UTG has 9d 9h (one pair, nines).
Kid Canepa has Kc 9c (high card, ace).
Outcome: UTG wins 12.20 BB.

PokerStars 5/10 Hold'em (6 handed) internettexasholdem.com

Preflop: ysscky is SB with 8, A.
3 folds, Button raises, 1 fold, BB (Kid Canepa) 3-bets, Button calls.

Flop: (6.40 SB) 8, 2, 5 (2 players)
Kid Canepa bets, Button calls.

Turn: (4.20 BB) A (2 players)
Kid Canepa bets, Button raises, Kid Canepa 3-bets, Button calls.

River: (10.20 BB) 5 (2 players)
Kid Canepa checks, Button bets, Kid Canepa calls.

Final Pot: 12.20 BB

Results in white below:
Kid Canepa has Kd Tc (one pair, fives).
Button has 6s 4c (one pair, fives).
Outcome: Kid Canepa wins 12.20 BB.

PokerStars 5/10 Hold'em (5 handed) internettexasholdem.com

Preflop: ysscky is BB with 2, T.
UTG (Kid Canepa) raises, 2 folds, SB calls, 1 fold.

Flop: (5 SB) 8, 5, K (2 players)
SB bets, Kid Canepa raises, SB 3-bets, Kid Canepa caps, SB calls.

Turn: (6.50 BB) 6 (2 players)
SB bets, Kid Canepa calls.

River: (8.50 BB) K (2 players)
SB bets, Kid Canepa calls.

Final Pot: 10.50 BB

Results in white below:
SB has 5d Ts (two pair, kings and fives).
Kid Canepa has 3s As (one pair, kings).
Outcome: SB wins 10.50 BB.

[Oink]

Lol at hand 1. I havent played a ton with you Miles but from what I know, you are folding a better hand on that board like never!

[kid canepa]

i'm obviously a wreckless player

[BrassMonkey]

Ysscky, I played you recently, just for curiosity's sake (I knew it was dumb) and you tossed me around like a ragdoll. Thanks a lot, creep-o.

-Brass

P.S. - Kid Canepa, you smooshed me, too, but ysscky's recent post makes me think I didn't approach things right.