probably , not sure. i know he has a DC account and he has posted on there before.

You have no reasonable expectation that there aren't friends watching over another guy's shoulder as he plays. One player to a hand isn't assumed online. Sweat sessions are legal/ethical. It is entirely possible that some of the hands I'm watching are during a coaching session where a good higher stakes player is actively participating in the decision making process. The idea that people are sharing accounts is troubling, but it isn't that much farther from a sweat.

Due to the milestones, PS has a lot of incentive to stop this. If you and I pooled an account, it would be quite possible to run for supernova elite. If we added Nchabazam to the mix, 1.25M or 1.5M would probably be attainable. We probably play enough the same that our IP addresses would be the only giveaway. It would be wrong to do so, and I assume that PS would have a large financial incentive to stop/catch us at it.

I can't help but assume this is already happening. Understanding that the person currently playing against you isn't the guy on PTR or in your DB is part of being an expert player. Once a guy starts veering off his notes, you have to make an adjustment. It is one of the things you get playing anonymous poker on the interwebs. Hence, my notes start to show his abnormal play, "2 people on this account?"

The flip side is that I played over Christmas across three states and maybe 4 IP addresses. If PS were hair-trigger about looking for mulit-accounting, my trip might have raised flags and caused me issues. It may be that multi-accounting is just a normal risk you run into from your opponents.

I think it's pretty hard to determine if someone is 2 different people or not unless the player plays sporatically different during long hour sessions etc. I myself and others I have seen have logged like 9-10K hands in a 10-12 hour single session (Maybe taking 5-10 minute breaks in between several hours). It's just the kind of crazy thing you have to do sometimes if you want to stick to any milestone or elite deadlines you have set / need to make up for due to missing days logging hands.

Also Doug im clueless as to your stars SN , How many hands do you have on me? Feel free not to answer that question

Biometric logins?

tbh i don't go out of my way to play with you at all and i'll leave the table if it's you on my direct right

1/2 is too soft and has too many LP tards you can get on your right to even consider sitting with a TAG or LAG on your right

has nothing to do with your PTR page, I had never even looked at it til now

ps shagsi if you're reading this you're a complete douchebag, kudos to your sorry life involving 132-tabling 1/2 and leaving random insults on just about everyone's PTR page

shagsi?

is it the guy with this avatar?



and has tagish stats: 25/18?

ya

yes. he offered coaching in micros about a year ago and posted in this thread or the stats thread a long time ago.

he hates me. i wonder why? maybe it's because he is my PTR BFF.
shagsi vs me.
Hands Played:81
Won/Lost:$-57
BB/100:-40.28
Showdowns:14
Showdowns Won:4
Flops:30
Turns:25
Rivers:19

Edit: he berates fish, and that makes me a sad panda.

While keeping in mind I know very little about how PTR actually works, isn't there some sort of proprietary/intellectual property claim that PS could make? I am guessing since they are not US based there is no authority to appeal/enforce that type of claim.

I don't really think too much off his game. Not the most creative Tag I've ever seen, although I think he spazzes out from time to time if my memory is good.

+1

Avatars don't generally tilt me but than one does. Though It might have to be mostly with his play

Update: it appears he has been banned

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/22...si#post8468676

this megafish guy had instaquit after this hand

Poker Stars $3/$6 Limit Hold'em - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

Pre Flop: (1.333 SB) Hero is SB with J K
3 folds, BTN raises, Hero 3-bets, 1 fold, BTN calls

Flop: (7 SB) 8 5 A (2 players)
Hero bets, BTN raises, Hero calls

Turn: (5.5 BB) 8 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

River: (5.5 BB) T (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets, Hero calls

Ya the PTR thing really boggles me too. I still don't understand how PTR is capable of compiling so much data. I could better understand how tourneys & sitngos can be collected because results are posted. But cash games can't even be datamined longer than 30x hands or so with PT3, HEM or pokeroffice.

Wouldn't like PTR have to like log on and open up all these tables to do this?? LOL...man anyone with some computer/internet intelligence who can briefly explain how this is possible.

+1.
He berated non stop on two tables. I only said a couple of things...

1. You short stacking Limit? hahahhaa
2. Mega-tabling rakeback tard with no post-flop skills.

It did make me laugh at the time.

Ahh man I took pride in the fact you usually leave soon after me getting on your right I actually enjoy seeing you play very Solid and for some reason I enjoy the challange.

There has to be a program out there that still datamines. Back when I used to play on Cake I had Holdem Indicator it worked on Both Cake and PS for data mining after they made the change. Only thing is it is not like HEM or PT3 it only kept there main stats and wins and losses not HH's.

if i wanted to maximize challenge, i'd play chess or facebook scrabble or some ****

i play poker for $ and only $ and sorry, my EV is not maximized sitting with you or any others that have brain waves

cheeseburgers are on scorcho tonight

whats new on limit front guys? I hope games are juicy as always while reload bonus in air.

free cheeseburger night

These holidays are the best... except that we've all forgotten how to play in loose/good games and many of us are getting killed. Adjusting to multiple losing players at the table (not just the 0.2BB/100 RB grinder kind) seems harder than it should be.

FWIW, scrabble on facebook is a joke cause people always cheat. It pisses me off. Also, I hate shagsi as well. He's worse than me, and I don't know how.

Hip hip hooray!

I finally had a bout of run-good.

PokerStars Limit Hold'em, $10.00 BB (6 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Preflop: Hero is CO with ,
2 folds, Hero raises, 2 folds, BB calls

Flop: (4.4 SB) , , (2 players)
BB bets, Hero raises, BB 3-bets, Hero caps, BB calls

Turn: (6.2 BB) (2 players)
BB bets, Hero raises, BB 3-bets, Hero caps, BB calls

River: (14.2 BB) (2 players)
BB bets, Hero raises, BB 3-bets, Hero caps, BB calls

Total pot: $222 (22.2 BB) | Rake: $3

Results:
BB mucked 10, K (two pair, Kings and tens).
Hero had A, A (three of a kind, Aces).
Outcome: Hero won $219

for a losing player, you sure move up in stakes quickly. is that a 20/40 hand? or 10/20?