depends on status and on the way you spend your FPPs

I assume you played the role of the hungarian child then, when you were a kid? well, i have bad news for you, you were conned by your teacher, sick beat

So for a person new to Stars, how do you get RB? Use your FPP's to buy that cash bonus or what? Pls to explain, I haz no idea!

yah , only use ur fpps to buy cash bonuses.

cash bonus = .016$ per point
concierge service = .016129$ per point - slightly better

oh and i think the $2500 travel gift card is slightly better than cash bonuses too.

and i'm pretty sure if u ever buy into a big donkament like the main event that is better rate as well.

I still cant figure out if Kaspurla is a fish or not. I have him as a slight loser over like 10k hands but his stats are like 43/29.

NthngBtsRck... several guys itt have told me what a fish he is. looking at his overall ptr page might get me to agree. but notice the sudden upswing when he moved down to 2/4... he's killing it for over 3 BB/100 over 50k hands... playing 45/32 with 47.5% wtsd... maybe he changed his game? maybe it didn't work at 3/6 and 5/10, but is suited well for 2/4???

on a similar note as NthBtsRck... if you mean kasperla (not kaspurla).. i have about 12k hands on him as a slight winner.. playing 47/31

6623 vpp to go for SN
50k hands this month so far... 38k at 2/4 and 12k at 1/2.

Yeah with NothingBeats is usually really bad, but lately (like in the last week or so) he's actually been less bad. Less dumb bluffs and more LAGTAG. Could be just me.

BTW we try not to write full names in case they google their name.

oh sorry. will try to remember that.

In the same boat. Good luck to us. I haven't played as many hands as you have this month, but I'm over the number that I would like to have played.

Kasp is the same way a "fish" as Maria. Not a threat to 2+2ers, but very good in exploiting "normal" players. Nothingbeats is just terrible.

I played with Maria for the first time last week. I couldn't figure out why everyone was berating her on here. She's not that bad.

People here were talking about her like she was the biggest fish ever.

If someone is industrious enough to google their screen name, find 2p2, then study poker enough to become legitimately good, then good for them, imo. It's not like the forums are some secret bastion of knowledge where someone can instantly become a good player. This forum has helped me a lot in the past two years, but if someone doesn't want to play poker well, they're not going to play poker well. There are huge misconceptions about what makes a fish a fish. It's not because they're stupid, mentally damaged, or breathe from their mouths. It's simply because they don't wish to play well. They want to gamble. When good players play bad, that's another thing entirely. But when we're talking about bonafide assets to the game, reading a few books, watching a video, or reading some forum posts isn't going to change a thing.

False.

Fish often think they're playing well. Or to paraphrase everyone's favorite movie "thinking it's just like their home game, how could this be any different." Someone might wanna try to google their SN one time. For fun. It's not necessarily an effort to get better. Discovers forum. Decides to start learning about the game more.

I know people, friends that I've tried to help get better, usually by telling them to read the forum. They lurk a little but refuse to study/read stuff on here thinking they know better or just generally aren't used to forums. They read some books, and aren't terrible players, but they aren't gonna elevate their game.

I know that sounds like I'm agreeing with you, BUT that superiority feeling (that the forum is useless) goes away with more exposure to it. I don't really want to expose them more.

The forum isn't really as well known as you think, especially among casual players. There's no reason to educate them.

angelina bee is one total fish who transformed into a lagtag over like a week. Don't know how she did it, but that is the only example I can think of.

Buddah is right, ldo.

He, in my opinion is one of the best posters on this forum and he makes total sense here.

Incidently I just want to clarify I'm for closing off the forum to new people or something. I totally agree if someone is committed to getting better and puts in effort they should be able to do so by reading etc.

What I disagree with is that I don't think someone googling their SN means they are industrious or even trying to get better. And I think as the forum as become more popular, there's probably a lot more lurkers out there than we think, and it's not really "fair" that they get a ton of knowledge from us without contributing anything. Traditionally it was sort of understood that you should post in other people's threads to help them as much as you make your own threads, but that's probably less true now. I'm sure there's plenty of people out there that have improved their game as lot (or just don't spew as much) because they read up a little on here, never contributed, and left. IMO I don't really like giving out "free" information like that. Tragedy of the Commons situation etc. You learn a lot more by responding to other people's threads, but still.

Bottom line is that I don't want the biggest lag out there, who THINKS he's playing well and just gets sucked out a lot, or that Stars is rigged, to google his name and find out he just needs to raise less. That's not really putting in that much work.

I don't think it works like that. A lot of people are stubborn and don't tend to take advice. Or they take that advice and use it in a way that is not advantageous to them. Telling said guy that he needs to raise less will force him to make different decisions that he doesn't really know how to make.

he is a regular poster here now (including this thread)
heh and "she" is a he btw (no, not kikadell)

I think we should have a special forum for ppl who have been banned in this forum for trying to stop ppl from being good posters and making us as a whole look like narcissistic ass clowns. Dave and spy can be mods. The rest of us can thank god that they have taken their bs somewhere else.

While I agree with your sentiment, it annoys me when random regulars will turn up with 10 posts asking for help with leaks in their game. No one ever seems to really indulge them, but come on, I've contributed a little here and I would never expect the people I play against to tell me directly how to improve my game.

edit: that's what coaching is for, and if anyone has any good advice for me (beyond not paying off with ace high whenever possible) I'm willing to pay.

wat?

no u.

How have I tried to stop people from being good posters? That's pretty much the opposite of what I said.


Also, news flash, private forums already exist.


PS I don't really like giving away something I've worked hard to get good at to random people on the internet who give me nothing in return.

why are none of u playing this 100/200?

why did we make this dudu bet basing on the ptr results? why not a hem graph at the end of the month like every other prop bet ever?