Two Plus Two Publishing LLC Two Plus Two Publishing LLC
 

Go Back   Two Plus Two Poker Forums > Limit Texas Hold'em > Small Stakes Shorthanded

Notices

Small Stakes Shorthanded Discussions of small stakes short-handed poker

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 11-29-2010, 12:13 PM   #25451
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
dragon1893's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Luxembourg
Posts: 11,164
Re: ***Official Stars Regs Thread***

giant buddha's prop bet thread imo
dragon1893 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-29-2010, 12:15 PM   #25452
old hand
 
CoreySteel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Slovenia
Posts: 1,418
Re: ***Official Stars Regs Thread***

Ohhh. Ok, thx
CoreySteel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-29-2010, 12:23 PM   #25453
grinder
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: SSSH
Posts: 623
Re: ***Official Stars Regs Thread***

Quote:
Originally Posted by dragon1893 View Post
giant buddha's prop bet thread imo
yeah, that would be the one. It's simply insane how many hands he put in over just 10 days.
LSUfan1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-29-2010, 12:27 PM   #25454
grinder
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: SSSH
Posts: 623
Re: ***Official Stars Regs Thread***

I am sure this is not the case at any level above the nano's, but it seems like I can play 22/12 and basically fold to any bet when I have less than 2 pair and run 5+BB/100 so far.

Am I just running extremely hot over my first few thousand hands, or are the nickels and dimes just that easy to beat? If this is the case, at what point does this seem to change (.25/.50, .5/1, or 1/2)?
LSUfan1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-29-2010, 12:29 PM   #25455
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
dragon1893's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Luxembourg
Posts: 11,164
Re: ***Official Stars Regs Thread***

you sir are a NIT!!!
dragon1893 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-29-2010, 12:35 PM   #25456
grinder
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: SSSH
Posts: 623
Re: ***Official Stars Regs Thread***

Quote:
Originally Posted by dragon1893 View Post
you sir are a NIT!!!
I am quite a NIT, but I guess that should probably read TPGK and not 2 pair. It seems to be faring quite well at the nanos though. I know it won't work for long, but I might as well take the low hanging fruit while it works, right?
LSUfan1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-29-2010, 12:40 PM   #25457
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
dragon1893's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Luxembourg
Posts: 11,164
Re: ***Official Stars Regs Thread***

no, no and NO!!!

you're just getting bad habits if you keep playing like that

loosen up, learn to play marginal spots while you're at the nanos. mistakes there cost way less than at higher stakes.
dragon1893 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-29-2010, 12:46 PM   #25458
grinder
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: SSSH
Posts: 623
Re: ***Official Stars Regs Thread***

Why wouldn't I just play the style that nets the most profit at a given level, and make changes as I progress that will take advantage of the changes at those levels? That way I am far less swingy early on, and can move up more rapidly. ...assuming I am making the proper changes as I move up.
LSUfan1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-29-2010, 12:48 PM   #25459
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
that_pope's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Casino AZ
Posts: 19,530
Re: ***Official Stars Regs Thread***

Quote:
Originally Posted by LSUfan1 View Post
I am sure this is not the case at any level above the nano's, but it seems like I can play 22/12 and basically fold to any bet when I have less than 2 pair and run 5+BB/100 so far.

Am I just running extremely hot over my first few thousand hands, or are the nickels and dimes just that easy to beat? If this is the case, at what point does this seem to change (.25/.50, .5/1, or 1/2)?
I tend to disagree with dragon.

At these levels, people just don't fold. And if they bet, they have the goods.

I think you are playing fine at this level, but each level you move up, you need to re-evaluate your game and see how you can loosen up.

Each level up there are less people open limping and less people on average seeing the flop, along with increased aggression.

I really haven't played a ton below 1/2, so take it for what its worth.
that_pope is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-29-2010, 12:52 PM   #25460
grinder
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: SSSH
Posts: 623
Re: ***Official Stars Regs Thread***

I basically felt the same way. I have played as high as 2/4 in the past, and I opened up quite a bit, but I had BR issues back then so my numbers are insanely bad on PTR.

I am finally learning to stick to a BR and put in the volume. I plan to learn as I go, and adjust to the changes in levels when I get to each level. The goal is to be playing 1/2 or higher at this time next year. I guess only time will tell, but I do plan on putting in the time necessary to improve.

I just want to make sure I'm getting the most out of my time at this point.
LSUfan1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-29-2010, 12:53 PM   #25461
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
dragon1893's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Luxembourg
Posts: 11,164
Re: ***Official Stars Regs Thread***

Quote:
Originally Posted by LSUfan1 View Post
Why wouldn't I just play the style that nets the most profit at a given level, and make changes as I progress that will take advantage of the changes at those levels? That way I am far less swingy early on, and can move up more rapidly. ...assuming I am making the proper changes as I move up.
i disagree that your style nets the most profit

you may have less fold equity at those stakes, but people make way more mistakes postflop

in other words you should try to play as many hands as possible in order to exploit that.

second, i repeat that with that style you'll just get crushed once you move up. who knows how much time it will take you to lose the bad habits.
dragon1893 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-29-2010, 01:05 PM   #25462
grinder
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: SSSH
Posts: 623
Re: ***Official Stars Regs Thread***

I guess I misrepresented myself somewhat in the OP, because I will bet my draws when I have multiple opponents, and I will call down with PP on A high boards if I feel villain can represent the A. I don't necessarily fold every time I don't have TPGK and I'm bet into, but it seems like this would net more at these nano limits with some of these really passive fish. Maybe I just have a really long way to go in my understanding of the game though. That's why I am here I guess.
LSUfan1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-29-2010, 06:12 PM   #25463
banned
 
Paul Valente's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Villain
Posts: 4,925
Re: ***Official Stars Regs Thread***


Paul Valente is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-29-2010, 06:19 PM   #25464
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
that_pope's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Casino AZ
Posts: 19,530
Re: ***Official Stars Regs Thread***

Everyone wants what you want.
that_pope is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-29-2010, 06:19 PM   #25465
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
Scorcho's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Watching LHE pass me by
Posts: 7,975
Re: ***Official Stars Regs Thread***

orange = total fish
Scorcho is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-29-2010, 06:25 PM   #25466
old hand
 
CoreySteel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Slovenia
Posts: 1,418
Re: ***Official Stars Regs Thread***

Oh yeah! I am red!!!
BTW Paul, r.p.h.i.l.l.i.7.2 is also green

Last edited by CoreySteel; 11-29-2010 at 06:30 PM.
CoreySteel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-29-2010, 06:28 PM   #25467
veteran
 
SoSo's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 2,276
Re: ***Official Stars Regs Thread***

Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul Valente View Post

i assume you have red = good? About 90% of that list are terrible.
SoSo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-29-2010, 06:30 PM   #25468
old hand
 
CoreySteel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Slovenia
Posts: 1,418
Re: ***Official Stars Regs Thread***

Don't crush my dreams

edit: Sorry about that U,n,g,u,a,r,d,e,d, Its fixed now.
CoreySteel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-29-2010, 06:32 PM   #25469
veteran
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: worrying what PokerBob thinks of me
Posts: 3,328
Re: ***Official Stars Regs Thread***

lol ninja deleted
Unguarded is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-29-2010, 06:32 PM   #25470
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
Hood's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: 99 problems but a TT+ just ship pf
Posts: 6,383
Re: ***Official Stars Regs Thread***

deffo need to work on your colour-coding skills
Hood is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-29-2010, 06:36 PM   #25471
banned
 
175503's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: MONEY IS FOR POOR PEOPLE!
Posts: 3,427
Re: ***Official Stars Regs Thread***

Ha I love seeing a list 14 deep and already being in the game.

Kapsi was going off the deep end, 4betting 74, T3o etc etc

Obviously he booked his first winning session in his entire poker career while I was at the table and then left.


I quit, Mondays are slow and ****** and I got buried. Someone PM if TupeTaavi's house burns down though.
175503 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-29-2010, 06:37 PM   #25472
banned
 
175503's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: MONEY IS FOR POOR PEOPLE!
Posts: 3,427
Re: ***Official Stars Regs Thread***

Quote:
Originally Posted by SoSo View Post
i assume you have red = good? About 90% of that list are terrible.
lol if you're going to talk trash on every single regular on stars why not out yourself?
175503 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-29-2010, 06:37 PM   #25473
veteran
 
SoSo's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 2,276
Re: ***Official Stars Regs Thread***

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hood View Post
deffo need to work on your colour-coding skills


You need something pro and vague like this.
SoSo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-29-2010, 06:41 PM   #25474
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
dragon1893's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Luxembourg
Posts: 11,164
Re: ***Official Stars Regs Thread***

Quote:
Originally Posted by SoSo View Post
i assume you have red = good? About 90% of that list are terrible.
only 2 players?

i'll go with merry and sledge. I win?
dragon1893 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-29-2010, 06:43 PM   #25475
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
that_pope's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Casino AZ
Posts: 19,530
Re: ***Official Stars Regs Thread***

Meh, mine are simple. Orange and red for winning players, green for breakeven regs or simply that I have a note on that person and haven't determined how I wish to label them yet. And light blue is bad down to dark blue which is horrible, and then a very select handful have purple which means drop everything and sit in their game and follow them around to wherever they go.
that_pope is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-29-2010, 06:43 PM   #25476
veteran
 
SoSo's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 2,276
Re: ***Official Stars Regs Thread***

Quote:
Originally Posted by dragon1893 View Post
only 2 players?

i'll go with merry and sledge. I win?
sick burn on Paul and 175503.
SoSo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-29-2010, 06:44 PM   #25477
banned
 
Paul Valente's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Villain
Posts: 4,925
Re: ***Official Stars Regs Thread***

my current system . . .
Paul Valente is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-29-2010, 06:45 PM   #25478
banned
 
175503's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: MONEY IS FOR POOR PEOPLE!
Posts: 3,427
Re: ***Official Stars Regs Thread***

Color coding is easy, just mark corfiot and dcook77 and nobody else. If you see them on a list or in a game, join it. If not, don't.
175503 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-29-2010, 06:46 PM   #25479
banned
 
ColeW123's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: get it on the floor
Posts: 11,934
Re: ***Official Stars Regs Thread***

I label red to too many players. A lot of my red just mean "has a brain." Whereas they could be a 1BB winner or a .5BB loser.
ColeW123 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-29-2010, 06:47 PM   #25480
banned
 
ColeW123's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: get it on the floor
Posts: 11,934
Re: ***Official Stars Regs Thread***

Quote:
Originally Posted by 175503 View Post
Color coding is easy, just mark corfiot and dcook77 and nobody else. If you see them on a list or in a game, join it. If not, don't.
Rofl.
ColeW123 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-29-2010, 06:55 PM   #25481
Won ****ty undertitle in BBB's Beanament
 
anfernee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Boston
Posts: 5,037
Re: ***Official Stars Regs Thread***

Quote:
Originally Posted by ColeW123 View Post
Rofl.
its actually pretty good advice because it means there's a fish at the table.
anfernee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-29-2010, 06:56 PM   #25482
Pooh-Bah
 
sledghammer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: self-banned
Posts: 5,120
Re: ***Official Stars Regs Thread***

Quote:
Originally Posted by dragon1893 View Post
only 2 players?

i'll go with merry and sledge. I win?
Can't be me I'm 29/22
sledghammer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-29-2010, 06:59 PM   #25483
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
that_pope's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Casino AZ
Posts: 19,530
Re: ***Official Stars Regs Thread***

I've seen corfiot sitting in some pretty questionable games on FTP that I would rather not be in...
that_pope is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-29-2010, 07:26 PM   #25484
veteran
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 3,449
Re: ***Official Stars Regs Thread***

Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul Valente View Post

How do you have yourself colour coded?

Last edited by All Apologies; 11-29-2010 at 07:27 PM. Reason: Or why?
All Apologies is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-29-2010, 07:35 PM   #25485
old hand
 
CoreySteel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Slovenia
Posts: 1,418
Re: ***Official Stars Regs Thread***

Didn't try because I don't want to have myself coloured but...
Go to notes at the table, click on that place where player's nick should be. Write your own there.
CoreySteel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-29-2010, 07:38 PM   #25486
banned
 
ColeW123's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: get it on the floor
Posts: 11,934
Re: ***Official Stars Regs Thread***

Quote:
Originally Posted by anfernee View Post
its actually pretty good advice because it means there's a fish at the table.
I know. That's why I rofl'd.
ColeW123 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-29-2010, 07:42 PM   #25487
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
dragon1893's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Luxembourg
Posts: 11,164
Re: ***Official Stars Regs Thread***

sure you did
dragon1893 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-29-2010, 07:50 PM   #25488
banned
 
Paul Valente's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Villain
Posts: 4,925
Re: ***Official Stars Regs Thread***

Quote:
Originally Posted by All Apologies View Post
How do you have yourself colour coded?
Or why?
it matches my avatar

ldo
Paul Valente is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-29-2010, 07:52 PM   #25489
banned
 
175503's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: MONEY IS FOR POOR PEOPLE!
Posts: 3,427
Re: ***Official Stars Regs Thread***

ahahahaha paul ftw
175503 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-29-2010, 07:59 PM   #25490
old hand
 
CoreySteel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Slovenia
Posts: 1,418
Re: ***Official Stars Regs Thread***

LOOOL
CoreySteel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-29-2010, 08:23 PM   #25491
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
Scorcho's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Watching LHE pass me by
Posts: 7,975
Re: ***Official Stars Regs Thread***

not good to keep your entire bankroll on one table
Scorcho is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-29-2010, 08:38 PM   #25492
veteran
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 3,449
Re: ***Official Stars Regs Thread***

Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul Valente View Post
it matches my avatar

ldo
Quote:
Originally Posted by 175503 View Post
ahahahaha paul ftw
Quote:
Originally Posted by CoreySteel View Post
LOOOL
+1's...LOOOOOOL

Quote:
Originally Posted by Scorcho View Post
not good to keep your entire bankroll on one table
All Apologies is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-30-2010, 11:05 AM   #25493
grinder
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: SSSH
Posts: 623
Re: ***Official Stars Regs Thread***

I guess stars wanted to welcome me to the forum. I started posting here yesterday, and I go home and hit a quick 100BB downswing over about 1800 hands. Thankfully I was properly rolled, because in the past I would have jumped up levels, and dumped all of my funds to one of you.

I guess I am not going to be keeping that 6BB/100 figure even at the .10/.20 tables. That dropped my overall to about 2BB/100 on my very small sample of 8K hands or so.

Enjoy!
LSUfan1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-30-2010, 12:14 PM   #25494
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
daiquiri's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Poker gods should d i a g f
Posts: 8,695
Re: ***Official Stars Regs Thread***

Quote:
Originally Posted by that_pope View Post
I've seen corfiot sitting in some pretty questionable games on FTP that I would rather not be in...
that pretty much only happens when the fish leaves and I forget to uncheck the autopost option
daiquiri is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-30-2010, 12:29 PM   #25495
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
that_pope's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Casino AZ
Posts: 19,530
Re: ***Official Stars Regs Thread***

Quote:
Originally Posted by daiquiri View Post
that pretty much only happens when the fish leaves and I forget to uncheck the autopost option
That happened to me yesterday. I was in a 4 handed game with a fish at 8/16, but johnnyrocket was also in the game. The fish leaves after his BB, which confused me and I ended up posting a naked BB and then the SB, and then the button and ended up losing my profits

But I think I made a nice check behind on my button hand against Johnny's BB.

I raise button w/ KJo and he calls in BB.
Flop is T87 w/ 2 suits and he donks and I call.
Turn is A and he bets and I raise and he calls.
River is an A and he checks and I check behind.

He had AJ of the suit on the flop...expert river check IMO.
that_pope is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-30-2010, 12:38 PM   #25496
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
Hood's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: 99 problems but a TT+ just ship pf
Posts: 6,383
Re: ***Official Stars Regs Thread***

this is HUHU? Why are you raising the turn?
Hood is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-30-2010, 12:56 PM   #25497
old hand
 
ryguy2fly's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 1,458
Re: ***Official Stars Regs Thread***

i'm done with limit, it crushes my soul too much

i'm suprised my mouse still works after the thrashing it receives.
ryguy2fly is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-30-2010, 02:11 PM   #25498
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
Scorcho's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Watching LHE pass me by
Posts: 7,975
Re: ***Official Stars Regs Thread***

from what i saw a couple days ago (i think we played like 500 hands total), you make really strange plays in really weird spots
Scorcho is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-30-2010, 02:27 PM   #25499
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
dragon1893's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Luxembourg
Posts: 11,164
Re: ***Official Stars Regs Thread***

Quote:
Originally Posted by Scorcho View Post
from what i saw a couple days ago (i think we played like 500 hands total), you make really strange plays in really weird spots
translation: his genius plays aren't getting the respect they deserve

2nd translation: he needs to move up where they respect his raises
dragon1893 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-30-2010, 03:36 PM   #25500
Pooh-Bah
 
sledghammer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: self-banned
Posts: 5,120
Re: ***Official Stars Regs Thread***


sweet month

PV,

You want to do 30k hands again in December?
sledghammer is offline   Reply With Quote

Reply
      

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off




All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:48 AM.


Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2016, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0 ©2011, Crawlability, Inc.
Copyright 2008-2010, Two Plus Two Interactive
 
 
Poker Players - Streaming Live Online