Originally Posted by DrivingDog
Well, I should've posted the whole hand I guess. I had a medium stack (~20BB) and BB had a big stack (~30BB). Folded to me in btn and i raised 3 BB. he called and open-shoved the flop.
So if the idea is that I should open - shove a hand no-one will ever call with worse well I can't agree with that.
With 20BB raising 3 or less is fine, didn't realize he overshoved the flop. It depends on a lot on your opponents, but in a 12x180 you can 2.5x here all day and fold to shoves, since most people in them don't resteal enough.
There are plenty of times though when you should shove any two with <15BB in these, since some people call way too tight. Doesn't matter if they never call worse.