***** Official SSSHLHE Stats Thread ***** - Page 9 - Small Stakes Shorthanded Poker

Yasawa · 10-31-2008, 03:04 PM

Pretty impressive, Absolution.

Do you still get good reads on your opponents? I have a hard time playing that many tables getting more reads than who is capable of bluffing. But I think I miss a lot of important informations like who 2nd barrels and who gives up turn or who peels light flop but folds at turn and so on. Thats probably holding me back from winning more than 1BB/100 right now.

JarnoV · 10-31-2008, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by GiantBuddha

I really wish HEM or PT3 would come out with an MT ratio filter (they haven't yet, have they?) so I could see how much different my winrate is 2 table compared to 4 tabling.

Or timoK or someone could do this over their huge databases. I think some conclusions could be made from that data volume.

GiantBuddha · 10-31-2008, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by JarnoV

Or timoK or someone could do this over their huge databases. I think some conclusions could be made from that data volume.

I want to filter my stats by session for MT ratio. I'm pretty sure that the majority of 1 and 2 tablers at the lower limits are fish.

JarnoV · 10-31-2008, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by GiantBuddha

I want to filter my stats by session for MT ratio. I'm pretty sure that the majority of 1 and 2 tablers at the lower limits are fish.

Yeah, I understand that. It was mainly an after-thought of that. I was mostly thinking of the players who have sample sizes of over 100k or so.

GiantBuddha · 10-31-2008, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by JarnoV

Yeah, I understand that. It was mainly an after-thought of that. I was mostly thinking of the players who have sample sizes of over 100k or so.

I think the results of this would be somewhat interesting. Filtering for 100k+ hands would make the results more significant, anyway.

Yasawa · 11-03-2008, 08:41 AM

Hey guys can you please help me ... I need a reference number to know how bad I suck.
I guess I call down way too much when I get raised on the turn and call down from there.

I lost $1023 (at 1/2) in 295 hands when the action was as followed:

Flop: bet

Turn: bet / call

River: check/call or call

This looks really ugly in my eyes.

topspinner · 11-03-2008, 09:21 AM

At 1/2 a raise or c/r on the turn is usually a very strong hand....obviously it is player dependent. I did an analysis (let me see if I can find)....of how many times someone was bluffing or semibluffing when they raised the turn and it was a very small number.

Yasawa · 11-03-2008, 09:33 AM

Is it possible in HEM to filter for the money that went in till the point of the turn raise and for the money after that point?

Tryptamean · 11-03-2008, 10:30 AM

pretty sure anybody loses money after taking that line ... more interesting would be the % of pots you win compared to the average pot size to see if u are gettgin the right price to call down overall

Yasawa · 11-03-2008, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Tryptamean

pretty sure anybody loses money after taking that line ... more interesting would be the % of pots you win compared to the average pot size to see if u are gettgin the right price to call down overall

I counted 86 won pots and 5 split pots of the total 295 hands. Thats roughly 30% won pots. ( btw: call me stupid, right after I counted all pots I realized I could just have looked at the w$sd stat.

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Most of the pots are 10 Big Bets, average might be little higher because here and there are some really big pots.

So contrary to my first belief when I see these results it looks good. I pay 2 extra BB after the turn raise for an average pot of 10 BB and win 30% of them.

WillyT · 11-03-2008, 11:52 AM

Yas,

So you're losing 1.7 -1.8 bets per hand on the times you get k/r'd on the turn?

Totally fine obv. If you outright folded you'd be losing about 2.5 per hand so you're making money back by continuing.

Of course that doesn't necessarily mean you're picking all the rights spots to call down and that you can't give it any more thought.

-Bill

Vitamin11 · 11-03-2008, 02:43 PM

what is k/r'd? check raised?

WillyT · 11-04-2008, 03:16 AM

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Originally Posted by mosaicAce

what is k/r'd? check raised?

correct. I prefer to use 'k' or 'x' to indicate check and 'c' for a call.

Yasawa · 11-04-2008, 03:43 AM

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Originally Posted by WillyT

Of course that doesn't necessarily mean you're picking all the rights spots to call down and that you can't give it any more thought.

I hope at some point I stop doing some of these pretty retarded obviously I`m never good calldowns. Does that ever stop?

Apanage · 11-05-2008, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Oink

Dunno if anyone is interested but here are my stats from the last 250k hands of LHE.

Feel free to tell me if there are anything interesting i should worry about.

5-6 handed

I´m probably going to feel real stupid when someone tells me why.
But how is it possible to have higher VP$IP than saw flop all hands?