***** Official SSSHLHE Stats Thread *****

[merryber]

Originally Posted by Leader

I think this is a good theory, but tends to fail in practice. When an opponent opens a wide range, you should be 3-betting quite a few hands (A5o, 98s, ect.). Of course, these weak hands are going to tend to miss the flop frequently, which causes many players to c/c or c/f instead of c/r. So while I agree that it's possible to make a call-c/r strategy work against wide ranges, I think that most small stakes players would do better simply 3b'ing in those spots.

this is very true and i have been facing tough spots lately when flat calling hands like A8 and found myself clueless on dry board never knowing if i am just throwing away money by c/c 3 streets or giving up on rivers/turns.
and c/r flops w my A high doesn't seem to work either, i guess i need to try and change my game from the blinds soon.
ty.

[Dredok]

Originally Posted by merryber

this is very true and i have been facing tough spots lately when flat calling hands like A8 and found myself clueless on dry board never knowing if i am just throwing away money by c/c 3 streets or giving up on rivers/turns.
and c/r flops w my A high doesn't seem to work either, i guess i need to try and change my game from the blinds soon.
ty.

let me see in what consists your changes so I will able to adapt :-)

[kikadell]

whats a good fold BB to steal these days? mine is 32.9

[Dredok]

nit

mine is 32.8

[La Peste]

34.3%, no more no less

[J_Locke]

I'm between 24 and 26 at various limits.

[Leader]

27 fwiw

[merryber]

Originally Posted by Dredok

let me see in what consists your changes so I will able to adapt :-)

oh , i think u r doing just fine vs me, do u?
no love there, sry.

[skillgambler]

Originally Posted by Leader

27 fwiw

this

[kikadell]

wait, so is it high 20's or low 30's?

would it be terrible to not be really close to either, or can u win with either?

[Dredok]

Originally Posted by merryber

oh , i think u r doing just fine vs me, do u?
no love there, sry.

j/k
actually it was a veiled advice !

[Leader]

Originally Posted by kikadell

wait, so is it high 20's or low 30's?

would it be terrible to not be really close to either, or can u win with either?

It should be noted in this discussion that PT3 and HEM have different FBBtS. HEM does not include defenses vs a SB open. So HEM is going to be higher.

Anything in the 40's is not going to be good though esp because players like me will just use that as a license to steal even more.

[shuinthehouse]

Originally Posted by Leader

It should be noted in this discussion that PT3 and HEM have different FBBtS. HEM does not include defenses vs a SB open. So HEM is going to be higher.

Are you sure this is still the case? I filtered a date to get a small sample, with filter hero in BB and SB first raiser (this can include hands with open limpers, so I made sure there were none in the sample), and with 5 hands of folded to SB who opened I folded once and called or 3! the rest. HEM correctly shows my BB fold to steal as 20%.

This is version 1.11.03

[golowas]

hi can you tell me what is good continuation bet on flop turn river ? i m playing 1-2 , 2-4 with a stats of 32-23 con bet on flop 95% - turn 82% - 56% ? thanks

[SoSo]

Originally Posted by golowas

hi can you tell me what is good continuation bet on flop turn river ? i m playing 1-2 , 2-4 with a stats of 32-23 con bet on flop 95% - turn 82% - 56% ? thanks

You c-bet the turn too much and don't value bet the river enough.