Whoa....OOP of position...i get the in position part but how many "flyers" are we taking OOP and a cold call? like unsuited broadway out of the blinds (sb and bb) or perhaps Ax?

You want to do it more in position obviously, but if some loose passive limps in and a loose aggressive raises, I'm cold calling a lot in the SB for example. In the BB I'm more likely to call with 86o than A5o. It all depends on the players involved as always.

32/24 is a fine vpip/pfr ratio imo

For sure. If you look back a page I made a post with a 200K hand sample with basically those stats at 1/2. I just thought there would be more opportunities to limp and cold call as you move down.

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too big W$SD? How to improve that?

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Hi oink and the rest of the sshe guys,
I have been working a lot more on physics than anything else lately. When I do play I play small stakes hu on FullTilt playing a strange style that appears to be a huge loser.

Still donk around with rzk on some huhu problems every once in a while too, but he is quickly becoming a great player and leaving me in the dust!

RE: the showdown stats, I had a ridiculous winrate over ~200k hands playing that style and I suspect that this is because I was taking advantage of a bunch of overaggro players that were frequenting the Stars games back then. Most ppl would say that if you play against reasonable opponents who have a call button then my strategy was suboptimal. But my SD stats (and VPIP) were a bit crazier than yours, nick.

Good to hear from you Vic. Good luck with your thesis - if you havent finished it already.

Man I miss RZK's posts as well. He really made me rethink a lot of things.

Nice thread. I wonder if I am the only idiot who has BB folded to steal between 20 and 30 (24% for 4handed+ games). I really try to play tight but folding hands like 93s or Q4off looks like throwing money away to me
Any successful players out there with those stats ? (I play mid/high with huge rb so rake is not an issue for me).

For my 7k hands so far this year at STARS 10/20 I have the following stats:
VPIP: 28,5%
PFR: 21,3%
Att to steal blind: 46%
won $ WSF: 46,4%
total AF: 1,61
went to SD: 45,2%
Won $ at SD: 49,7%

So my primary question is regarding the went to SD and won at SD.
Have I turned into a showdown monkey?
Am I calling down too light too often?
Some other 10/20 regulars care to share their SD stats?

Amazingly enough I have been doing pretty well for these 7k hands, but I dont think it matters much cause of sample size.

You go to showdown a lot. Mine are 42/52 although this isn't on stars. Your results over this size are pretty irrelevant. Have a look at this

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/52...d-w-sd-363633/

There's nothing wrong with 45 WtSD though it does depend on what you're showing down.

All these stats are from Absolute mostly over 2008 although I'm missing a couple thousand hands from HEM.

After I had another reg sweat my session he felt I showdowned too many Ahi hands but not enough weak pair type hands in HU pots which is probably true although I could just showdown both for how low the SD stats are. My SD stats have always been too low and definitely seems so for how aggro the games can get. With that said DD and the reg both felt I'm showing down too many pair type hands without putting enough thought into hand combination that I can actually beat.

Lately I feel that I'm value betting the river too light which results in me either making a bad bet/call or bet/fold in certain spots which could be a minor reason why my SD stats are so low.

My flop AF seems too high and when I did some hand review sessions with DD he felt I was too raise/fold and there were some spots where I should be calling with BTM pair type hands to balance with my peel range. When I started to transition to that and also value checking more turns I believe I incorrectly became too passive. Especially in spots OOP as the SB 3B.

My VPIP also seems weird as it looks like its too high 3-5 handed and too low 6 handed.

Another thing to note that may effect some stats are at the beginning of the year I was 3 betting the BB against a PFR liberally in HU pots. Then during the end of 08 I started to not 3bet a single hand out of the BB against a PFR in HU pots. Lately I started to 3bet the BB liberally again since I felt I was missing too much value playing some UI hands too passive against some. Its also much easier for me to play the pot with the initiative against certain players since they react so passively against the BB 3bet.

I'm sure there are more stat leaks as I've been told by a couple players that my stats don't look right.

Any comments or help would be great.

Obviously I suck. Is there anything major I need to change to right this ship?


position stats 5-6 handed.

looks like you've just been running badly. nothing sticks out as a glaring leak that should be preventing you from beating 1/2 so i would just post more hands, do monthly hand swaps, watch vids, etc. work on playing solid/improving but don't try to drastically alter anything.

fwiw you can def complete more hands in the sb though.

maka2184,

You don't SD nearly enough. I mean 36 WtSD HUHU is almost buddy list worthy. You need to be showing down 40%+ 5-6 hand esp at 10/20+. You're also too passive pf. 4-6 handed your pfr is 3-4% lower then mine.

C Bids,

You need to defend you're BB 10% more at least.

what is hand swapping? sounds like something i shouldnt be doing.. lol

thoughts on 3bet numbers? im sure it doesnt really matter but i just got hem w/ all the new sexy stats and was kinda wondering... at 1/2 mine is 12. good/bad?

I'd say having CO and BTN ranges similar is a huge leak, you should play more hands from BTN
WTSD 37% is also very small, with that VPIP you should have between 40-43%
Fold BB to steal 52% is ridiculously high watch some videos about defending the blinds, you can find on Cardrunners Stellarwind or Bryce on Stoxpoker
You are way too loose in UTG and UTG+1 for a 26/20, basically you do not seem to understand well enough the importance of position

There is 2 issues with this advice

- At 1/2 there is a lot less steal situations and people steal with tighter ranges.
- Hero might not be that good postflop.

I dont disagree that he could defend more and win more by that. But I am 99% sure that the overall effect on his winrate will be very very small.


Having a wtsd at 43% at 1/2 is almost certainly a mistake. 37 will on average represent a lot better postflop play.


Now we agree. Hero should be a lot more aware of position

As Eric says he should also complete more hands in the small blind. He should most likely also coldcall more hands in the small blind. My vpip in the small blind 5-6 handed is 39 and I play in a lot more aggro games with a lot less profitable completing and coldcalling spots

Maka

Looks ok but I think you are too tight in a lot of spots.

- You need to defend your SB a lot looser. 70-75% for 4-6 handed play imo
- You need to defend your BB a lot looser. 30-40% for 4-6 handed imo
- Steal more. +45% for 4-6 handed imo
- show down more. As LEader says your HUHU wtsd is ridiculous. 35-36% for 5-6 handed play at midstakes is also a recipe for disaster.


Also, considering your low wtsd which implies you dont call that much your AF's look rather low.

To compare. My lifetime 3 handed stats are
vpip 60
pfr 42
atsb 62
fold bb to steal 16 (PT3 stat that is different from PT2, I think it corresponds to something like 25-30 in PT2)
fold sb to steal 67 (comparable to PT2 stat)

"Having a wtsd at 43% at 1/2 is almost certainly a mistake. 37 will on average represent a lot better postflop play"

Oink have you played low stakes lately...players are much more aggressive now. I assume 1-2 plays pretty similiar to 2/4 and in my 2/4 db the biggest winners have a wtsd of between 40-44%.

O ok

No I must admit my comment regarding that was based on my old small stakes experiences.

I apologize to Bahaus if small stakes is that much more aggressive. My comment on the fold bb to steal stat is also wrong then.

pretty sure 41.72% is perfect for 1-2

No need to apologize, just figured you hadn't played low stakes in awhile. Look at TR....2/4 at Pokerstars and the average table has a higher aggression factor than 10/20 at party poker.