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Old 04-05-2012, 11:52 PM   #121
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Yep. The only thing is that $100 ante for 3/6 stud/8 kinda sucks because the mistake most bad stud/8 players make is playing too many mediocre hands in bad spots (small pairs and razz hands basically) so it kinda makes their play really good on 3rd street.
On the other hand I think high ante razz is awesome because most bad players are very first level thinkers and don't steal / defend / adjust well at all to the bigger antes.
Pre-edit: misread post...see below.

I'm gonna need further explanation on this post. This seems like crap to me that everyone's just gonna take at face value. Please tell me what I'm missing.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but what it seems like you're saying is...say I'm the bring in with the 2c and my hand is 442c and it's an 8 handed game so there is $800 in antes plus my $100 for bring in...it folds around to the 3s who makes it $300, so I have to put $200 into a $1200 pot...so I should just fold my hand is what you're saying? There's honestly not a goddamn hand I'm folding in this spot because he is seriously completing everything there, from the A23 to the 333, to the Q93 because the pot is so ****ing huge. I'd rather take my random hand against his random hand in such a big pot because of opportunities to steal/play back against someone. I guess what I'm saying is...I'd prefer a good explanation over something like "this is what bad stud/8 players do."

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Old 04-06-2012, 12:12 AM   #122
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Ahhhh....drunk misread....sorry DD

So I guess what you're saying is...the good players in that game should be pushing for a lower ante because it amplifies the bad players' mistakes? Kinda weird because it's all the good players pushing to make it bigger because the bad players put more money in the pot. Interesting take.
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Is that the older asian guy I always see playing HU Stud8 with "The Hat"? We're you guys just playing 3-handed? Congrats In b4 3/6+ reg.

Also, I don't think it's been called Philadelphia Park in like 10 years
It's very rare for this guy to play hu, but he does fit the description of older Asian guy. Late at night I played 3 handed with him and another good pro, but during the day the game was mostly 6 and 7 handed. I hate to call the casino Parx, because it's such a dumb name. Tonight I'm playing 4 handed 2/4 HE. I like my spot.
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Haha, I just 3-tabled a reg for 4+ hours at 5/10 PLO. I don't know wtf I am doing. What happens? I win 5k+ ldo. He was on uber chat tilt and was trying to pay me $200/hour to keep playing him. I have been berated by every reg I have played against so far at 5/10 I think. They are begging me to play 10/20 with them and offering to pay me to do so. Trying to bust my Blowada roll is fun.



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that is hilarious UG, they probably don't realize they will never ever win allins against you please let them pay you to play them
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Kinda weird because it's all the good players pushing to make it bigger because the bad players put more money in the pot.
But if the antes are this huge then the bad players are putting more money in the pot correctly.

I think what DD is saying that it wouldn't really matter if the ante is 50 or 100 in a 3/6 game. The bad players are still gonna limp in with their 499 or 258r with all sorts of scary doorcards behind.

So by pushing for a larger ante you are decreasing your 3rd st. edge (assuming the increase doesn't make them play an even wider range).

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So I guess what you're saying is...the good players in that game should be pushing for a lower ante because it amplifies the bad players' mistakes? Kinda weird because it's all the good players pushing to make it bigger because the bad players put more money in the pot. Interesting take.
the same thing can hold true for LHE, with players whos main mistake is that they play almost every hand, but then are actually smart players postflop.
You would rather play 6-handed than 3-handed vs someone like that.
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Love this guy and he is acting in a new show (with Gervais obviously) called "Derek" next week





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Hey guys, I am commentating on Live at the Bike again tonight. I had a trial run yesterday that went well so here I am again today.

The show starts in 7hrs. I am excited. My roll is colour commentary.
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Ahhhh....drunk misread....sorry DD

So I guess what you're saying is...the good players in that game should be pushing for a lower ante because it amplifies the bad players' mistakes? Kinda weird because it's all the good players pushing to make it bigger because the bad players put more money in the pot. Interesting take.
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But if the antes are this huge then the bad players are putting more money in the pot correctly.

I think what DD is saying that it wouldn't really matter if the ante is 50 or 100 in a 3/6 game. The bad players are still gonna limp in with their 499 or 258r with all sorts of scary doorcards behind.

So by pushing for a larger ante you are decreasing your 3rd st. edge (assuming the increase doesn't make them play an even wider range).
Precisely, its the opposite of ICH9D's first example, the bad player is gonna play that small pair no matter what, would you rather give him 6:1 or 3:1? Even that example isn't great since the hand is fine to play in either spot but wolfram summed it up nicely.
In razz its the exact opposite, most fish don't understand relative hand value so when they bring it in with (47)K and it folds all the way around to a 3 who raises, they just fold even though they should almost certainly defend, in that case you'd rather the ante be huge since it magnifies the mistake.
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Hey guys, I am commentating on Live at the Bike again tonight. I had a trial run yesterday that went well so here I am again today.

The show starts in 7hrs. I am excited. My roll is colour commentary.
When is that Bike time?

Do you need a pay subscription to watch? I've never been able to get it working, but I don't subscribe.
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i think you can watch the first 30 or 60 minutes for free.

I'm a subscriber although I never watch it anymore but I'm too lazy to figure out how to cancel the monthly payment (lol).
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boc, Mike Caro is a smart guy. He preaches that you need to be more careful in terms of BRM the bigger your roll gets. In other words, 'shot taking' at 3/6 probably isn't the best of idea. The harder the money is to replace, the more important it is to be a nit about it.
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i think you can watch the first 30 or 60 minutes for free.

I'm a subscriber although I never watch it anymore but I'm too lazy to figure out how to cancel the monthly payment (lol).
False. Unless it has changed in the last month, you can watch the full episode for free. But you can only watch the 2 most recent episodes. So basically you have a week to watch it until it becomes subscription content.
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