***Official Cereus Regs Thread***

[TheHip41]

Originally Posted by Abbaddabba

it says that it only has been accumulating data since april 1st.

so if it's only listing half the hands you've played, that's pretty accurate.


i have a feeling that the hands not accounted for will disproportionally be heads up games where their datamining function cant pick up the tables quick enough. and that would explain why it's understating my winrate, since ive been doing a lot better heads up than i have 3-6 handed pre-rakeback.

that makes sense, since the last 30K hands over the last 6 weeks I'm down like 12k. Pretty awesome graph, goes up 10K, down 12K. Thanks noles.

If the site continues, it will be interestgin to check back a year from now and see the results.

[NinaWilliams]

Originally Posted by TheHip41

I am having lots of fun with this site. Makes you realize there aren't that many huge winners in the LHE games.

It was pretty surprising to me that there weren't that many people over 1bb/100.

[TheHip41]

Originally Posted by NinaWilliams

It was pretty surprising to me that there weren't that many people over 1bb/100.

another thing, over 100K samples, Ive run breakeven, and also at like 1.6/100

100K hands, or 60K like some ppl have isn't that many at all

if it had 500K hands, I'd say that was pretty conclusive.

[mntbikr15]

Maybe it varies from person to person but mine is off considerably for amount (no im not down more)

They also dont even have all limits played

or all games...but they dont claim to track 08 and plo

[mntbikr15]

Originally Posted by TheHip41

Also, NW is the best player on AP, mtbiker, iwon, you guys are wrong

.

Up there for 6 max, yes.

Best player? Lolz at trying to pick someone so can only play 5 and 6 handed, highest bb/100 does not best player make


Also, who is Iwon on here?

[MitchL]

Originally Posted by TheHip41

a few things.

the site is not 100% correct, seeing as I have played 220K hands this year, and it has 110K listed.

However, I don't think my winrate would be that much different. It says I'm up 2K, I'm up like 15K from poker. But, we all know i'm a rakeback tag, and I'm cool with that.

Second, noles hit like 25 draws in a row at 10 and 15 in the last two months on me.

Also, NW is the best player on AP, mtbiker, iwon, you guys are wrong


I am having lots of fun with this site. Makes you realize there aren't that many huge winners in the LHE games.

Its alot funner to have NW thinking that everyone views him as an uncreative nittag. I suppose we could just act like he is on a massive heater and that the longrun will catch up to him eventually. He could be the Doughnutz of tagnits.

[TheHip41]

Originally Posted by mntbikr15

Up there for 6 max, yes.

Best player? Lolz at trying to pick someone so can only play 5 and 6 handed, highest bb/100 does not best player make


Also, who is Iwon on here?

you could mock him for being a puss, but numbers don't lie


he has the highest winrate of non HU players here.

that means you don't have the right to mock him, since he is outperforming you

and this isn't 3-6, it's 10-20+

[mntbikr15]

Ok since u seem extra dense today let me elaborate.

Just because he sits in full good games and had the highest WR does not mean that he is the best player on AP.

Notice I am not disputing that he has the highest win rate.

I also am not saying it because I think I am a better 6 max player (although Im certain Im a better sh player).

When I think best player though....it obviously has to be someone who is equally good all around. There are several much better choices than a 6 max specialist, to call one "the best player on AP" is up there with the most laughable statements that you have made.

Get it?

[mntbikr15]

Originally Posted by TheHip41

since he is outperforming you

From a profit standpoint this is false, at least from what he claims to be up this yr in his well.

Suppose it depends on ur definition of perform though.

[mntbikr15]

Sidenote

I <3 how your nitness has gotten you no where, so u find it solace in jumping on the **** of a semi nit who has done better.

[TheHip41]

Originally Posted by mntbikr15

Sidenote

I <3 how your nitness has gotten you no where, so u find it solace in jumping on the **** of a semi nit who has done better.

biker, you are so bitter. wtf


also, i don't think i'm the one people should be worrying about. I'm up 50K this year, and I"m happy with that. I also know you play a billion hands, so I know you are up.

I just think it's ironic how everyone rags on him, and yet, out of all of us, only palo, bayarea, and stewie have won more in the last 4 months. that's all.

[Palomino]

Originally Posted by TheHip41

biker, you are so bitter. wtf


also, i don't think i'm the one people should be worrying about. I'm up 50K this year, and I"m happy with that. I also know you play a billion hands, so I know you are up.

I just think it's ironic how everyone rags on him, and yet, out of all of us, only palo, bayarea, and stewie have won more in the last 4 months. that's all.

Yay me! Not to mention this is only 1 account from 1 site. This doesn't even come close to my total winnings for 08.

(yes, this is a not so subtle brag post).


Oh, and sidenote....weeeeeee, ap regs thread is BACK! ty tableratings.

[mntbikr15]

4 MONTHS?!?!@>

NO WAAAYYY

A LIFETIME!

OBVIOUSLY TELLS ALL

NOT POSSIBLE TO RUN ABOVE EXPECTATION FOR 4 WHOLE ****ING MONTHS....NOPE CANT HAPPEN

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Do you ever consider how stupid you sound? Or does it just not matter?

[TheScientist]

You are way too emotionally invested in this mntbikr. And yes, it would be nice if they had 500,000 hands on everybody, but you can't completely discount 4 months of data. Statistically speaking, those who are up the most after 4 months are still the ones most likely to be up after 12 months, 24 months, etc.

[Abbaddabba]

I just think it's ironic how everyone rags on him, and yet, out of all of us, only palo, bayarea, and stewie have won more in the last 4 months. that's all.

This site does a poor job of measuring volume of play if you're trying to figure out who has won the most. Im in the minority of poeple here in that i dont have a second active account, which could easily double the volume you see. Some people play a large amount of hands on other sites, while others play strictly on AP. And some people (me) took a long time off, and all the data on there represents about 6 weeks of play.



The accuracy of raw winrates is the least of the problems for using that site as a tool to measure peoples success.