Villain is TAG reg, 29/21/12, everything normal but high turn c bet (85%)

PokerStars - $3/$6 (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players


Pre Flop: ($4.00) Hero has 7s 7c

fold, Hero raises to $6.00, fold, BTN raises to $9.00, fold, fold, Hero calls $3.00

Flop: ($22.00, 2 players) 4s Jc Qh
Hero checks, BTN bets $3.00, Hero calls $3.00

Turn: ($28.00, 2 players) 6c
Hero checks, BTN bets $6.00, Hero calls $6.00

River: ($40.00, 2 players) 8d
Hero checks, BTN bets $6.00,

There's at least 38 combos of worse hands than 77 in your range here. Seems pretty hard to justify a fold with the available information. He could also be incorrectly value-betting worse hands.

I pay the river off but don't like it. I'd probably fold 22/33 if I had those, and flip a coin with 55.

interesting responses, I understand leader and his bringing in balance here, on this texture i find it hard to see much we are beating when he fires that river that connects w/ a lot of our range that may have been folding the river, this just doesn't look like a bluff to me, he does over cbet the turn, how about the river? Is he capable of knowing to fire some KT here and such to push you off your hands, a lot of regs give up here w/ those hands, if so it's an easy muck, if he is clever and barrels those hands then it's a call

Urg I hate playing these hands. Without the turn cbet read I would have called the flop, if I'm calling that flop I have to call that turn also. the river I'm calling but I fell icky. Interesed to read the replies.

A lot of players check behind the turn with AK, AT; which makes me want to fold the turn. But his high turn c bet made me call.

On the river I don't think he turns AK, AT into a bluff, and I don't think he has KT in his range too much. I don't think he value bets AK, and I don't think he has 33,22 that often. Even a 55 value bet would be pretty thin/advanced for most guys at $3/6 imo.

You must be close to the top of your range on the river

That's true. Folding AK and AT is a lot already.

At first glance this seems like a super close call to me. The main reason being that we still have stuff like AK/AT and probably 55 that could and should fold.

If he "value bets" 55 then its neither thin or advanced, its just stupid. Unless ofc he has some bizzare read on us.

For him to bluff river with AT I think would make good sense btw (given he did bet it twice on flop/turn). Same goes for ofc whatever worse stuff he could possibly have, like maybe some worse AXcc or KT`s.

this

this is the key point for me

Can you clarify what this means to our river actions? I am calling on river but I am not sure what your comment is trying to say.

Are you saying that being at the top of our range means we have to call or wtf were we doing to get here in the first place?

OR

Are you saying that we are at the top of our range and villain knows that he is ahead of the top of our range so we should be folding and not letting him toake us to value town?

I think you are advocating a call but want to make sure.

I was saying that we have to call since we are close to the top of our range, and if it's a bad call then we should have had a different strategy on earlier streets.

That's what I thought....Thanks. agree 100%.

I think it boils down to if we think villain has a balanced betting range on this river. A lot of posters have already pointed out that if we're folding hands as strong as 77 here, a bluff by our opponent is going to be very profitable. However, none of that matters if villain doesn't bluff this river enough.

I think the more I respect villain's game, the more I want to call here. The more I view him as a straight-forward mass tabling grinder, the more I like folding.