Btn appears to be Lag regular. He's been 3-betting me like a maniac, if I had to guess he range is like 30-35% of hands, but like top 25% and some small suited connector type stuff like 75s. BB is an unknown, stats seem reasonable over small sample, not sure if he's aware of just how loose aggressive btn is at this point.

Is there any merit to a flop raise to try and drive out the Btn?

Poker Stars $2/$4 Limit Hold'em - 6 players
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Pre Flop: (1.5 SB) Hero is CO with K A
2 folds, Hero raises, BTN 3-bets, 1 fold, BB caps!, Hero calls, BTN calls

Flop: (12.5 SB) 7 5 5 (3 players)
BB bets, Hero ...

Don't think it's worth it when you're up against a capping range. You're isolating yourself.

I dont like raisng the flop here after the BB has capped PF. I cant decide between folding right now or calling and folding the turn UI

Folding the flop would be bad. There's a reasonable chance we have the best hand, the pot is big, and we still have over cards that can improve us to the best hand.

Assuming Btn just calls the flop bet also, I don't think there is any turn I would fold either.

The chances that your two opponents have played together is always >0. I give BB a discounted AJs+, 88+, with AK, QQ+ included at 100%.

I need a good read on BB to do anything but call this flop. Depending on how the board runs out, and how btn plays, I might showdown.

imo the only hand that he would fold is a hand u beat already.

now is it worth it to raise to fold is 3 outter ( like AQ) because the pot is big ?
maybe tho i wouldnt

I Agree, although he may fold a hand like 44-22.

There are some hands we're pretty happy to fold that have 6 outs against us, hands like T9s, J8s, etc. I doubt he folds a GS hand like 98s/96s even for 2 bets though.

It's you who has the reads on this player, but I doubt there are enough of these hands in his range.

That said, your equity against the BB is good, because of which I don't mind a raise, especially if it improves your chance of winning at showdown:

Board: 7d 5c 5d
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 39.989% 32.34% 07.65% 94272146 22304869.00 { 88+, A8s+, KJs+, A9o+, KQo }
Hand 1: 60.011% 52.36% 07.65% 152637977 22304898.50 { AdKc }

If he can 3bet regularily with j8s, t9s, etc u need to raise this flop and go to sd .
Unless both vilain raises turn as well then u can fold turn imo if too much action happen

Most people 3bets with these hands. He is a CO raiser, not UTG.

Its that much easier to SD when you dont have someone overcalling flop and turn. although it is probably an easy river fold if BB barrels 3way. cutting out Btns equity in a pot this size is worth a lot. I like a raise at some point to KO Btn, and prefer it be on the flop.

If we are going to Iso, our equity is on average going to be worse on the turn, and it become more costly to raise, as well as the liabilty of being 3-bet. getting 3-bet is of particular concern due to the fact that we have to call the raise.

Assuming a capping range of 88+ AJs+ AQo+, and a bet/rr barrel range of Pairs or FDs... peel turn and fold river UI.

If BB goes b/c, im not really sure on the best line. im either checking back/calling UI, bet-bet, or bet-check.

i think check back-call > bet-bet > bet-check

bet-check doesnt make a whole lot of sense. if BB b/c c/c then we have the best hand a lot, and probably get looked up at SD. If we bet the turn, then check the river, all our turn bet does is allow BB to c/r his value hands, and SD his weak hands cheaply.

So check back-Call > bet-bet imo, but anyone who has an Ev calculator could probably prove which line is the highest Ev

The problem with Check Back - Call is that it allows villain to play extremely well against us on the river. He's going to bet all his better hands, but we still might have to call because AK, probably AQ should be a value bet for him on the river too.

If BB mostly fast play on the flop, I think we have pretty clear value bets on the turn and river (assuming relative bricks.)

BB may jam it up, or be c/r'ing the turn... but we dont really know what he will do. If we knew for sure he jams when OOP, then the decision becomes easy. but the best line, overall, when we arent sure what he will do imo is to check back. I think paying off with the worse hand on the river out-weighs the times we are c/r on the turn.

it is probably going to be close, and would probably put in turn/river bets in this situation myself at game speed sometimes.

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Im also interested in what we should do if the Btn cold-calls and the BB calls. I think it defines BBs hand as weak even more so than if he were to flat HU. The Btn seems like a bit of a loose cannon, and i think we can get 6 naked outs to fold, but there is a chance that he calls with T9 type hands(hands that can BD a staight), A6, backdoor clubs with overs, as well as any straight draw.

Im thinking we should check any club, 6,8,9, J, Q.
Bet and any Diamond, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, T. and obv bet any A/K.

(Assume we 3-b and both just call,) I think we can assume both BB's and Btn's range at this point are generally weak. BB might delay a hand like AA to the turn, but I think generally he'll just jam the flop with 88+. Btn also has a ton of incentive to just 3! most 1 pair hands on the flop, so I think when he cold calls its mostly straight draws, some flush draws, and some AK/AQ type hands, with the occasional slow play of trips. Seems optimistic he cold calls with T9cc type hands though.

I think I agree with turn plan, except I wouldn't check safe clubs on the turn. It might also be good to bet Js & Qs.

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