Villain is 28/21/2.0/42 reg. My stats are 34.5/26.4/2.12/44.5.
I raise 38% on CO, c/r flop 30%. Villain 3bets on BU 11%. Raises turn 27%. Capable of raising turn on a draw or a free showdown.
I checked his fold to c/r on flop and turn. 19% and 40%. C-bets turn 80%. Man, I had to check it before, guess I should have c/r turn.
Any suggestions how to play this hand perfectly on flop/turn and river.
Was it a good idea to 3-bet turn?
What do think of my donk on river? I guess even c/r on river was better than donk.
Re: Flop gutshot, Turned into gutshot/flushdraw and missed
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Originally Posted by Arseface
i probably just peel this flop, i think if we c/r this we are too semibluff heavy.
i'd then go ahead and c/r the turn after peeling the flop and barrel
i dont like the river donk as villain is very showdown bound at this point after re raising your flop c/r on the turn
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Thank you.
What range would you c/r on flop then? Would you c/r small pairs and medium flushdraws? What about high flushdraws?
After peeling the flop would you call the turn if there was a blank?
Re: Flop gutshot, Turned into gutshot/flushdraw and missed
I don't think c/r flop makes your range too draw heavy. You shouldn't have too many other draws to bluff with in your MP range on that flop. A few flush draws, maybe T8s..
I think you're supposed to c/r the turn, but if you have a read that villain has only overpairs you could just call to hit.
And it sounds spewy, but if you're gonna c/r bluff the river ever this is pretty much the hand.
Re: Flop gutshot, Turned into gutshot/flushdraw and missed
Sorry, for some reason while I posting the thread I was thinking I was on CO.
Yes, that's too loose of a raise on MP, mistake. Not big one though, there was passive loose fish on SB.
Man, that was a pretty loose 3bet from his side, besides of my loose image, I guess he was thinking he can overplay me on flop.
Thank you for your answers. To summarize it, let's try to find my optimal c/r range on flop. I believe it's sixes and up for value, medium and small flushdraws, and straight draws with no s/d value, and flushdraws with a five, wrong?
So if my play on flop was right, was it a good idea to 3bet turn, I believe I will 3bet turn with jacks and up, and so there shoud be some draws to balance it, I guess it's T8s, J10s and J8s, spades or clubs.
How the game was played I think I will donk the river with at least A9, shall I ever bluff it, I think this is my big mistake, I bluff too many, I think there has to be one or two hands to bluff, maybe couple 108s.
Re: Flop gutshot, Turned into gutshot/flushdraw and missed
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Originally Posted by Leader
Unless you see him as exploitable to donking the river or you're donking a ton of made hands, I don't like it. 3-betting the turn is good though.
Thank you.
What's your suggestion on the river? Let's assume as the game was played I have a range 77,88,1010, K9o+, 109s+, A5s, 98s, 108s, J8s, J10c, Q8c, Q10c, QJc; what hands shall I donk and c/r the river?
What do you think of my flop c/r range?
Re: Flop gutshot, Turned into gutshot/flushdraw and missed
A9s is a super easy 3bet giving you are opening with hands like J8s (both plays are good preflop, giving your inputs)
What is your CR range on this flop? Be sure you arent cring drawheavy here as ppl said.
I agree with your thought process of exploting this guy by waiting till the turn with loads of hands, he is a clear target for this play.
Donk river seems really bad, as you said, i would prefer CRing if you wanna bluff here (remember you dont have to fight for every pot). What represent your donk? in such a board? A5?
Re: Flop gutshot, Turned into gutshot/flushdraw and missed
I think I will donk the river with all flushes and A5, maybe 1010, probably one of 108s to balance the range,I agree donk with my hand is a big mistake. Thank you very much.