Originally Posted by MatosMaize
Could you give some examples of a spot where you think donking flop is better than c/r?
Whoops, thought this was the no limit section, my bad :x
But my reasoning still stands to some extent. When you take a look at the ranges, you'll notice that they are not that much different when both ranges are wide.
I can give you my exact ranges for donking, but I doubt it will help anyone, because it depends a lot on how you play further along in the hand. Look at your reasoning for cbetting out of position, and ask yourself how donking would be different.
Donking feels unnatural, but always look at the situation with your whole range. Some people say that they don't want to donk because they will get raised alot; that's good for your value hands. Do you get alot of folds against a specific opponent? great for your semi-bluffs. If you donk a balanced range, villain can't exploit you.
I suppose the reasons to bet on the flop are the same in no limit than in limit; to get value on earlier streets without letting villain see extra cards, and win air vs air battles.
I'd like to think a little bit more about this. How much fold equity do you think you have on a flop c/r on a dry or semi-dry board? How wide do you check/call? (do you check/call AJ on a 3 8 T board with a backdoor flushdraw?, do you check/call with Q9 on that board) When you know your check/call range, it's easy to define your check/raise range. In no-limit, you have around 50% fold equity on your flop c/r in these spots, which makes it very profitable. But I suppose it's a little bit less in limit.