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check/raise AK on the flop in 3bet pot check/raise AK on the flop in 3bet pot

11-08-2014 , 09:20 PM
PokerStars - $3/$6 (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (MP): 12 BB
CO: 56.45 BB (VPIP: 30.27, PFR: 22.97, 3Bet Preflop: 13.36, Hands: 1,266)
BTN: 17.94 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 22.22, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 9)
SB: 12 BB (VPIP: 28.38, PFR: 22.33, 3Bet Preflop: 15.00, Hands: 1,699)
BB: 20 BB (VPIP: 22.64, PFR: 13.46, 3Bet Preflop: 5.26, Hands: 53)
UTG: 19.12 BB (VPIP: 28.00, PFR: 21.93, 3Bet Preflop: 14.00, Hands: 2,259)

SB posts SB 0.17 BB, BB posts BB 0.5 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 0.67 BB) Hero has A K

fold, Hero raises to 1 BB, CO raises to 1.5 BB, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls 0.5 BB

Flop: (3.67 BB, 2 players) 4 Q Q
Hero checks, CO bets 0.5 BB, Hero raises to 1 BB, CO calls 0.5 BB

Turn: (5.67 BB, 2 players) 5
Hero bets 1 BB, CO calls 1 BB

River: (7.67 BB, 2 players) 6
Hero bets 1 BB, CO calls 1 BB


Thoughts? I would bet/fold any street, because I think opponent would only raise with KK+

This is the range I put him on due to table condition and stats:

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Asztal: 4hQcQs
Részesedés Nyert Osztozás
MP2 47.63% 42.54% 5.09% { AcKd }
MP3 52.37% 47.28% 5.09% { 55+, A7s+, KTs+, QTs+, JTs, T9s, ATo+, KTo+, QJo }
11-09-2014 , 03:41 AM
B/f is bad against aggressive opponents.
Going for 3 BBs of value is very courageous, not something I would recommend unless you have history/reads. Would also be a lot better if the QQ were 77 instead.

Standard play is to calldown.
My preferred fancy play is to [call flop, x/r turn, donk-check river] and develop a balanced strategy around it. To a decent hand-reader, [call flop + call dry turn] will make our hand faceup. Better to have a wide x/r turn raising range.
11-09-2014 , 09:33 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by phunkphish
To a decent hand-reader, [call flop + call dry turn] will make our hand faceup.
This is exactly why I love a call-down line until the river. When anyone decent bets the river I am usually lost but call anyway.
11-18-2014 , 04:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by GGB
PokerStars - $3/$6 (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (MP): 12 BB
CO: 56.45 BB (VPIP: 30.27, PFR: 22.97, 3Bet Preflop: 13.36, Hands: 1,266)
BTN: 17.94 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 22.22, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 9)
SB: 12 BB (VPIP: 28.38, PFR: 22.33, 3Bet Preflop: 15.00, Hands: 1,699)
BB: 20 BB (VPIP: 22.64, PFR: 13.46, 3Bet Preflop: 5.26, Hands: 53)
UTG: 19.12 BB (VPIP: 28.00, PFR: 21.93, 3Bet Preflop: 14.00, Hands: 2,259)

SB posts SB 0.17 BB, BB posts BB 0.5 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 0.67 BB) Hero has A K

fold, Hero raises to 1 BB, CO raises to 1.5 BB, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls 0.5 BB

Flop: (3.67 BB, 2 players) 4 Q Q
Hero checks, CO bets 0.5 BB, Hero raises to 1 BB, CO calls 0.5 BB

Turn: (5.67 BB, 2 players) 5
Hero bets 1 BB, CO calls 1 BB

River: (7.67 BB, 2 players) 6
Hero bets 1 BB, CO calls 1 BB


Thoughts? I would bet/fold any street, because I think opponent would only raise with KK+

This is the range I put him on due to table condition and stats:

hu.pokerstrategy.com
Asztal: 4hQcQs
Részesedés Nyert Osztozás
MP2 47.63% 42.54% 5.09% { AcKd }
MP3 52.37% 47.28% 5.09% { 55+, A7s+, KTs+, QTs+, JTs, T9s, ATo+, KTo+, QJo }
are you value betting? are you bluffing? do you know?
12-01-2014 , 01:30 AM
I say villain is on a small pair. So unless you think he can fold to river bet, c/c river is the most I would have done.
12-08-2014 , 09:50 PM
I like x/r for value on flop, and the c-bet on the turn. River is prob a x/c though.
12-11-2014 , 10:13 PM
stoving the flop doesnt help much. you need to know the ev of your whole line vs villians call down range. you also need to know how c/r'ing this flop effects you c/c range. imo c/r'ing flops like this ruin your c/c range, so delay everything to the turn/river.
12-13-2014 , 07:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by The-Future
I like x/r for value on flop, and the c-bet on the turn. River is prob a x/c though.
If you take that line on flop and turn I'm pretty sure check/folding river is superior over check/calling. Villain isn't turning up at river with less than Ahigh (except for a possible nonshowdownable flush draw that he for some reason didn't rebluff turn with.) Either way it would be very creative of him betting it hoping to fold out a better hand. OP:s line smells like a showdownable one

On the other hand if you checkraise flop you do it for value and then the river is a clear bet since the board hasn't changed since the flop.

      
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