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09-13-2016 , 02:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Unguarded
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Omg, I think I totally agree with that theory and am somewhat embarassed that I did not think of it myself. People with multiple personalities almost always have at least a few different personalities. Elliot repeatedly mentions that Tyrell's wife sees right through him and reads his mind, which would make sense if she is actually Elliot's wife and has been dealing with his bs for years. She definitely seems to be way too ok with the possibility that Elliot murdered her husband and seems to be giving him repeated cues to snap him out of his wussy Elliot persona. Tyrell's bodyguard talks to Elliot like he already knows him really well and is super nice to Elliot despite otherwise being a maniac. And Elliot is just such an awkward goofball that it makes sense for him to have a hyper-aggressive, dominating, perma-angry alter-ego. And most importantly, I cannot immediately think of any scenes that make it impossible for Elliot and Tyrell to be the same person.
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lol same here. Someone on reddit last year started a post on that theory. Good point with the bodyguard, seemed weird to me how they were around each other, with no supposed history. But yeah it makes perfect f'ing sense when you think about their scenes. Probably why I always liked Tyrell's character too, being that the writer has always made Elliot's character enjoyable to watch.
09-14-2016 , 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Unguarded
I have a question for you mongoloids. Does it even seem possible to dumbasses like you that it has been almost 5.5 years since Black Friday? I mean from the perspective of primitive knuckle-draggers such as yourselves, does it really seem ****ing fathomable that 2 PTR eras have passed in that time? Are you morons capable of processing that Black Friday happened halfway between Joe Hachem's 2005 WSOP victory and now? My ignorant ass cannot begin to comprehend how the **** I still have money 5.5 years later after behaving like such a crayon eating window licker since 2011. While most of you should probably give up on this whole "expressing your thoughts" sorta thing, I would personally enjoy hearing what you monkey ****ers have to say on this pressing matter. If 1 or 2 of your "responses" are Forrest Gump level or better, I may grace this thread with an anecdote or 2 since you cretins are obviously incapable of forming coherent posts without Elo's help. YA DAT RITE!!!
I didn't understand anything you just said
09-16-2016 , 09:21 AM
Trump finally said something just amusing and not scary about foreign policy. When asked about rescuing the Spanish economy said "maybe after leaving kindergarten they can give up nap time."
09-16-2016 , 10:23 AM
Thinking about jumping in the 4 man $5300 against condia and Saahil. Condia had Brandon Marshall in the Thursday slate DU. Easy money
09-16-2016 , 10:19 PM
Hmm.

$20/$40 (6 max) - Holdem - 2 players

Button: $485.00
BB: $2,121.00

Button posts SB $10.00, BB posts BB $20.00

Button raises to $40.00, BB calls $20.00

Flop: ($80.00, 2 players) 9 4 2
BB checks, Button bets $20.00, BB calls $20.00

Turn: ($120.00, 2 players) Q
BB checks, Button checks

River: ($120.00, 2 players) A
BB checks, Button checks

BB shows 5 5 (One Pair, Fives)
Button shows Q A (Two Pair, Aces and Queens)

Button wins $119.00
09-17-2016 , 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by networth
Thinking about jumping in the 4 man $5300 against condia and Saahil. Condia had Brandon Marshall in the Thursday slate DU. Easy money
If he's on Siemien (sp?) then I could see finding Marshall for the Thursday. Not that it's great or anything but I don't think it's awful.
09-17-2016 , 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Unguarded
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Omg, I think I totally agree with that theory and am somewhat embarassed that I did not think of it myself. People with multiple personalities almost always have at least a few different personalities. Elliot repeatedly mentions that Tyrell's wife sees right through him and reads his mind, which would make sense if she is actually Elliot's wife and has been dealing with his bs for years. She definitely seems to be way too ok with the possibility that Elliot murdered her husband and seems to be giving him repeated cues to snap him out of his wussy Elliot persona. Tyrell's bodyguard talks to Elliot like he already knows him really well and is super nice to Elliot despite otherwise being a maniac. And Elliot is just such an awkward goofball that it makes sense for him to have a hyper-aggressive, dominating, perma-angry alter-ego. And most importantly, I cannot immediately think of any scenes that make it impossible for Elliot and Tyrell to be the same person.
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The theory make sense but what confuses me is the meeting between Tyrell and price where Tyrell gets fired seemed to obviously happen in real time and Elliot seems to actually work st all safe. It seems very odd that he could somehow hold both positions, for starters there wouldn't be enough theme in the day and that's ignoring things like the non compete agreement Tyrell mentions in episode 2
09-17-2016 , 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Jon_locke
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The theory make sense but what confuses me is the meeting between Tyrell and price where Tyrell gets fired seemed to obviously happen in real time and Elliot seems to actually work st all safe. It seems very odd that he could somehow hold both positions, for starters there wouldn't be enough theme in the day and that's ignoring things like the non compete agreement Tyrell mentions in episode 2
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Yes, this part does indeed get messy. I thought of this too after my post. On the other hand, maybe reality is so far from anything we have seen in the show thus far that such contradictions could become irrelevant. For example, what if the psycho drug dealer was actually one of Elliot's alter egos and Elliot murdered Shayla? What if Evil Corp. doesn't even exist? What if Elliot is really just some sad, crazy dude locked in a psych ward and none of this is real? Fun show!
09-18-2016 , 12:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Unguarded
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What if Evil Corp. doesn't even exist? What if Elliot is really just some sad, crazy dude locked in a psych ward and none of this is real? Fun show!
Reminds me of John Cusack in Identity. Watched the most recent Mr. Robot episode on On Demand today. One episode left, I believe, in this season. Not sure where everyone is at though, so will leave out any details.
09-18-2016 , 12:10 PM
Sethypoo is the director of basketball operations for the bucks. Sounds like a cool job.
09-18-2016 , 07:18 PM
That was an observed hand, btw
09-19-2016 , 01:54 AM
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Originally Posted by dark_horse
That was an observed hand, btw
It's ok bro... you can just go ahead and admit that you were BTN in that hand. Do you really think anyone believes that some non-PTR era random suddenly had a breakthrough post-bf on an anonymous site? PTR or it didn't happen, yo! So you got fancy on the turn and felt the c/r coming from 53 and you were wrong... it happens. Hey, at least you got one of his hole cards right! Just be grateful that you make enough money to donk off 6 figs per year to peons like us.
09-19-2016 , 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Lawnmower Man
If he's on Siemien (sp?) then I could see finding Marshall for the Thursday. Not that it's great or anything but I don't think it's awful.
If Condia does something I think is stupid guess who's the fool. I did take second in a $5 GPP yesterday though. Screw poker.
09-20-2016 , 04:46 AM
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Originally Posted by seattlelou
Sethypoo is the director of basketball operations for the bucks. Sounds like a cool job.
I have no idea what a director of basketball operations is supposed to do. What is cool about it?
09-20-2016 , 04:49 AM
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Originally Posted by networth
If Condia does something I think is stupid guess who's the fool. I did take second in a $5 GPP yesterday though. Screw poker.
Which site was this Brandon Marshall lineup on?
09-20-2016 , 01:10 PM
DK. I'm in the screw the kicker school
Mariota/Yeldon/D.Johnson/Marshall/Sharpe/OBJ/Green/Langford/Pats. His DU lineup Thurs-Monday slate..scored 114. Pay me the money
09-20-2016 , 03:01 PM
It's fine but yeah there are a few plays in there that I think can be upgraded. My point is I wouldn't be looking to sit against it at 6% rake (I realize you are probably just joking). I always laughed in poker when reg battles happened between dudes that were probably just having an E(X)=0, Var(X)=∞ ego contest (that's a Student's t distribution with 1 < d.f. <= 2 for you nerds out there).

Some reg: livb is ****ing AWFUL. Just saw him make a bad shove in a marginal spot! Ima break this FOOL.

I think somewhere along the way, people forgot how rake works when transitioning to dfs. I've seen arguments, on these forums even, that dfs rake isn't a problem. I'm confident I could go back into the 2p2 archives and find some 2006 SNG reg confidently boasting the same thing about poker rake.

And they aren't totally wrong, other than suffering from an extreme case of myopia. It's true the sites can tune the rake to match winrates in the current time period. The problem is the skill gap between sharps/fish is largest at the beginning, so the high rake just compounds the fish's dilemma. He registers for 10 $1 contests and then gets this string of emails:

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Subject: Sorry, but you lost to condia this time. Build a better lineup and try again.
Subject: Sorry, but you lost to condia this time. Build a better lineup and try again.
Subject: Sorry, but you lost to condia this time. Build a better lineup and try again.
Subject: Sorry, but you lost to condia this time. Build a better lineup and try again.
Subject: Sorry, but you lost to condia this time. Build a better lineup and try again.
Subject: Sorry, but you lost to condia this time. Build a better lineup and try again.
Subject: Sorry, but you lost to condia this time. Build a better lineup and try again.
Subject: Sorry, but you lost to condia this time. Build a better lineup and try again.
Subject: Sorry, but you lost to condia this time. Build a better lineup and try again.
Subject: Sorry, but you lost to condia this time. Build a better lineup and try again.
In time period t_j, the suits can't figure out why new depositor dollars are falling short of projections. They panic, then decide to give more incentives to volume grinders. In time period t_n, Amaya owns both FanDuel and Draftkings, folds them both into StarsDraft, and Matthew Berry tells us about the great changes that are "in the works" while hawking Choice Center memberships on his fantasy podcast.
09-21-2016 , 07:04 PM
So has DFS gotten softer or tougher in the past 2 years? I am hoping it has gotten tougher because it would make me feel smart for deciding to stick with poker after giving DFS a shot for a month back in 2014.

And wow, DFS is definitely broken... Condia grinding 1000 games/day is so much worse for the games than nanonoko or MI2 grinding SNE.
09-22-2016 , 02:23 PM
It's definitely tougher, but NFL is still very fishy and you should be playing it. I really don't think the other sports would be worth your time, especially NBA.
09-26-2016 , 02:45 AM
Just to clarify, you should be playing it with 6 accounts like Zeejustin since no one is going to stop you.
09-28-2016 , 12:50 AM
Ya, I keep hearing that NFL is where it's at. But damn... I am just so obsessive about games that I think my "hourly" would suck almost no matter what. And I just don't wake up early enough to make last minute lineup swaps. I thought NBA was a lot of fun, but I just wasn't feeling the edge. And it seems even shadier than online poker as far as the optimal way to behave as a pro.
09-28-2016 , 01:13 AM
Finally finished season 2 of Mr. Robot!

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That was overall a good season, but not great like the first one imo. I did like how they teased us at the end, blowing the "Tyrell and Elliot are the same person" theory up in our face. We now have seen Darlene, the FBI agent, and Angela acknowledge Tyrell's existence. I was pleased that I was right about Knowles imitating Tyrell... Tyrell's wife is a G. Not gonna lie... I kind of enjoy seeing her bartender bitch getting clowned. In the girl power/modern feminist era, we need to be reminded that women can be absolutely savage scum of the earth in their own special way. Narcos is doing a good job of this too. Darlene's scenes have been getting better with her bitchiness under interrogation. Angela's storyline has promise again and it's nice that the director has allowed her to smile and express emotion in the past couple episodes. But please, please, please... let's get Elliot going stronger again in Season 3.

And dayum... that was way too anticlimactic imo. I felt like we deserved a much stronger finish and more reveals toward the end after enduring some very slow/boring episodes and too much cringeworthy dialogue. I am not feeling the "Elliot got shot" cliffhanger, but oh well. At least we get to look forward to Tyrell's full return.

I mean there is a lot to bitch about. But Mr. Robot is still magnificent compared to most of the **** we had to watch in the 90s.
10-02-2016 , 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Unguarded
Finally finished season 2 of Mr. Robot!

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That was overall a good season, but not great like the first one imo. I did like how they teased us at the end, blowing the "Tyrell and Elliot are the same person" theory up in our face. We now have seen Darlene, the FBI agent, and Angela acknowledge Tyrell's existence. I was pleased that I was right about Knowles imitating Tyrell... Tyrell's wife is a G. Not gonna lie... I kind of enjoy seeing her bartender bitch getting clowned. In the girl power/modern feminist era, we need to be reminded that women can be absolutely savage scum of the earth in their own special way. Narcos is doing a good job of this too. Darlene's scenes have been getting better with her bitchiness under interrogation. Angela's storyline has promise again and it's nice that the director has allowed her to smile and express emotion in the past couple episodes. But please, please, please... let's get Elliot going stronger again in Season 3.

And dayum... that was way too anticlimactic imo. I felt like we deserved a much stronger finish and more reveals toward the end after enduring some very slow/boring episodes and too much cringeworthy dialogue. I am not feeling the "Elliot got shot" cliffhanger, but oh well. At least we get to look forward to Tyrell's full return.

I mean there is a lot to bitch about. But Mr. Robot is still magnificent compared to most of the **** we had to watch in the 90s.
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lol that bartender is a little b*tch, I want to kill the guy that did this to you, but there's no way I'm framing someone for murder. But agree, it's ok with me to show women mentally abusing men, news alert, this does happen in real life.

I found the prison episode much more revealing/climatic. I loved though the little plug/bash on the show Burn Notice. Mr. Robot absolutely saved the USA network from shows like Burn Notice.

But agree more Elliot in Season 3. More Tyrell, some Angela sex scenes and/or more emotion and wouldn't mind some more Leon.

10-05-2016 , 01:28 AM
@andy

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Yes, more Leon too please! A friend explained to me recently that it is almost impossible for black actors who are pure actors to make it in Hollywood these days because all of the jobs are being given to comedians and musicians. So being the douche that I am, I have been looking for a reason not to like Joey Bada$$ in the show. But Leon is just pure awesome and Joey Bada$$ is doing a great job imo.
10-05-2016 , 01:51 AM
So I often check out the high stakes games on Stars and have noticed something interesting. For starters, the 10/20+ PLO games are almost always the exact same lineups at each table with no true fish. Like if there are 4 50/100 PLO tables, the lineup will usually be the same at each table or very similar... just regs. But there is one major difference that I keep seeing...

I notice that some of the regs are playing like 10 tables. Some of them do really dumb **** like playing 8-10 tables while playing in these lineups. As far as I can tell, these are the "fish" in these games. Then there are the guys who are generally considered the true elite... Ike Haxton, Ben Tollerene, Jeans86, Jungleman, etc. I notice that these guys are usually only playing 3-4 tables.

This reminds me of the old days on Stars where the SNE LHE grinders routinely got butchered by the "elite" who usually only play 2-4 tables. The SNE grinders were consistently unable to recognize that while they may be winners at the soft tables, they were bleeding so much money in the tougher games that it was negating their SNE rakeback and then some.

It looks to me like there is a lot of money to be made at Stars high stakes by simply turning off youtube, focusing hardcore on only 2 tables, and taking regular breaks to stay fresh. The fatigued 8-tablers should have no chance. I suspect that in the more complex big bet games such as PLO or 8-game, the edge against these degen types should be huge since the 2-tabler is going to have their sizing tells hacked and know all of their tendencies as well as just generally making better fundamental decisions.

And yes, I realize that it takes a lot of skill to even be able to hang with the auto-piloting high stakes PLO regs. And yes, it is pretty discouraging that the games are in such a sad state that it is necessary to beat up on 8-tablers instead of real fish. But I still think this is all very interesting.

LHE definitely reached a point a few years ago where I felt like the top 100 players in the world were extremely close in ability. I felt like the reg vs. reg battles in 6-max games were mostly draws... or at least that it was no longer fathomable to beat the rake against most Stars regs. I wonder if this is now the case at the big bet games.

Wouldn't it be funny if the "elite" at nosebleed PLO are actually of similar skill level to the 500 zoom grinders? And if some of the .50/1-1/2 PLO grinders are actually nosebleed caliber if they had proper bankrolls and cut it down to 2 tables?

This sort of thing was the case for a long time in LHE. Just something I have been thinking about lately that I thought might be interesting. It's old news to some of us, but I just never hear it discussed in the PLO community.

      
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