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10-20-2015 , 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by LetsGambool
So Jiggs, is that a negative on FEMA camps, are they still a possibility...what's your stance buddy?
Never once referenced FEMA camps. And you just conceded that fact. Don't try and spin it into something else now.
10-20-2015 , 04:13 PM
You didn't reference them you said "here is a guy with a great take on the effects of peak oil" and the guy was an author of books that talked about FEMA camps and the end of the public internet via peak oil.

Seems weird you wont just say "FEMA camps are ridiculous, of course not" rather than not answering the question.
10-20-2015 , 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by LetsGambool
You didn't reference them you said "here is a guy with a great take on the effects of peak oil" and the guy was an author of books that talked about FEMA camps and the end of the public internet via peak oil.
I'll remember to check the entire background of every source you cite so I can pretend his/her quote shouldn't count. Oh wait, you never cite anything, because you never actually initiate posts about anything, because you don't have any original thought in your head. Safe establishment group think is your entire DNA.

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Originally Posted by LetsGambool
Seems weird you wont just say "FEMA camps are ridiculous, of course not" rather than not answering the question.
Do a member search for FEMA and my handle. Tell me what you find. ... Oops, no reference to FEMA camps? Just a few references to natural disasters and federal protocol.
10-20-2015 , 04:27 PM
Yet here you are dancing around the direct question.
10-20-2015 , 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by LetsGambool
Yet here you are dancing around the direct question.
Probably because you're telling me I have to do something, and you're a total dick, so there's extra incentive to not follow your instructions. I don't demand you explain how you're not a racist, even though you've undoubtedly cited racists.

In any event, the answer should be clear where I stand on "FEMA camps." One need only use the search function.
10-20-2015 , 05:05 PM
Well OK then, guess your opinion is peak oil may or may not lead to FEMA camps.
10-20-2015 , 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr.mmmKay
The more you bomb them the extremer they become
Yes, curious phenomenon. It also appears that the more you bomb them, the more their political structure collapses, the more the power vacuum grows, and more the extreme elements gain affordance toward influence and control.
10-20-2015 , 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by LetsGambool
Well OK then, guess your opinion is peak oil may or may not lead to FEMA camps.
And yours is that you may or may not f*** goats.
10-20-2015 , 05:29 PM
I don't **** goats. See how easy that was?
10-21-2015 , 01:52 AM
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Originally Posted by LetsGambool
University Study? Lol no Jiggs. You cited a course syllabus from a random American Studies class.

http://www.colorado.edu/AmStudies/le...0/syllabus.htm

Note the same url form. You are citing one random reading from the syllabus of a University of Colorado Boulder 200 level American Studies course, the October 21st class.
Serious question gambool- do you know what the word random means?

That was actually one of the most efficient citations I've come across here, very specific in response to the question and very interesting. It took almost no effort to process while at the same time giving substantial and illuminating support. Yeah, it's true that (as some posts in the history forum of mine can attest) I already shared the view. But I had no earthly idea that I shared the view with LeMay, who was one of the more prolific, evil terrorists of all time. Maybe nuking people was too quick and painless a kill for his tastes.

Anyway you should really read the contained quotes and educate your dumb ass instead of misapplying concepts like "random" to it, embarrassing yourself.
10-21-2015 , 06:13 AM
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Originally Posted by JiggsCasey
The U.S. had already intercepted communications from Japan showing that the emperor had asked the Russians to mediate a surrender, and almost every top U.S. military leader from the time later came forward saying that Japan was already defeated before the bombs were dropped.


Foreign Policy: The Bomb Didn't Beat Japan... Stalin Did; Ward Wilson

University of Colorado Boulder: American Military Leaders Urge President Truman not to Drop the Atomic Bomb
I've never seen any plausible justification for not demonstrating the nuclear bomb on a low population area.

Your link suggests the sheer power of the bomb wasn't such a huge impact because conventional bombing was just as destructive but that seems fanciful - the fact of such devastation in one strike instantly made any chance of continuing to fight unthinkable. At the very least Japan could have been given time to consider the reality of the new super weapon.
10-21-2015 , 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by chezlaw
I've never seen any plausible justification for not demonstrating the nuclear bomb on a low population area.

Your link suggests the sheer power of the bomb wasn't such a huge impact because conventional bombing was just as destructive but that seems fanciful - the fact of such devastation in one strike instantly made any chance of continuing to fight unthinkable. At the very least Japan could have been given time to consider the reality of the new super weapon.
You mean like the three days they waited before wiping out Nagasaki too?
10-22-2015 , 06:26 PM
anyhow...

Scahill went on DemocracyNow!, like he always does the day a project of his drops, and encapsulates what's wrong here with crystal clarity, .. you know, for anyone still confused about what the assassination program entails, or in denial about it.

around 24-minute mark...
...

AMY GOODMAN: Finally, before we go to break—

JEREMY SCAHILL: And they killed them all, with the exception of, I think, one survivor.

AMY GOODMAN: Before we go to break, your source, this second Edward Snowden, who is this person?

JEREMY SCAHILL: Well, do you want to give me your pin to your ATM card? I mean, look, this is a very brave whistleblower. And this administration has been relentless in its war against whistleblowers. And, you know, I mean, Chelsea Manning is rotting right now in a prison cell for exposing U.S. war crimes. Edward Snowden is in exile. Thomas Drake and Bill Binney, you know, were smeared in public and had their reputations ruined. Jeffrey Sterling is in prison right now. Our source is an incredibly principled, brave individual. And, you know, I worry because the government is—this government has been relentless in its pursuit of people of conscience who blow the whistle, and has characterized them as traitors and spies, and, in the process, has criminalized the ability to do independent journalism that is meant to hold them accountable, the government accountable, without fear that your sources, or in some cases the journalists themselves, are going to be put in the crosshairs of the so-called justice system.


it's as I've always said... obvious, but still notable: they're so rabid about crushing whistleblowers because these people - at Langley, Arlington and Lower Manhattan - know what they're doing is unethical. It's an embarrassment, sure, but the bigger reason? They must be able to continue conducting these operations and be able to keep hidden.
10-23-2015 , 03:57 AM
Thought this thread was about israel from the title. I was only half right.

      
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