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01-02-2017 , 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by jalfrezi
What's stunning is your inability to post evidence that I romanticise a ruthless, revolutionary dictator. Stunning, but not surprising.
You're confusing me with someone else. You are so full of crap you don't even know who you are talking to.
01-02-2017 , 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by kerowo
You are an idiot. This is the kind of slogans the US was founded on 200+ years ago and obviously pisses off the white supremacists who have been around for about an election cycle. Keep wishcasting bra!
LOL. How dumb can you keep making yourself look?
01-02-2017 , 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by wil318466
You're confusing me with someone else. You are so full of crap you don't even know who you are talking to.
wil having another of his 'episodes' I see.

Either that or you're going through the five stages of grief at the loss of your mentor-in-racism, TS.

Let it all out dude, you'll feel better for it.
01-02-2017 , 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by jalfrezi
wil having another of his 'episodes' I see.

You're going through the five stages of grief at the loss of your beloved racist leader, TS.

Let it all out dude, you'll feel better for it.
I've seen a bunch of wil's stuff, I found him to be 'politically incorrect', but never spewing hate. Maybe I'm unaware of some huge rant... Just from this thread, I find you're coming off way worse than he is.
01-02-2017 , 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by jalfrezi
What's stunning is your inability to post evidence that I romanticise a ruthless, revolutionary dictator. Stunning, but not surprising.
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Originally Posted by jalfrezi
wil having another of his 'episodes' I see.

Either that or you're going through the five stages of grief at the loss of your mentor-in-racism, TS.

Let it all out dude, you'll feel better for it.
What are you even talking about here? Quote where I've talked about a revolutionary dictator. Are you talking about Castro? I don't think I've said a single word about it.

Again, you are confusing me with someone else.
01-02-2017 , 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by wil318466
LOL. How dumb can you keep making yourself look?
Wil, you saying I'm dumb is meaningless. How about you try saying why you think what I said is dumb then we can laugh at how ****ing stupid you are and reminisce about the time you thought I didn't know the difference between 'mute' and 'moot' or when you defended for several pages that it's alright to punch a child in the face.
01-02-2017 , 05:22 PM
No, you're pretty dumb.
01-02-2017 , 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by wil318466
I stand by every statement. If someone wants to discuss any of them, I'd be more than happy. I don't think any single comment is racist/bigoted in any way. The closest is maybe "acceptable", but that's a philosophical argument, which should be obvious.

Question : Why do people keep saying "peak oil"?

Grunch
The statement AAs react differently when arrested is pretty much racist as it assigns actions based on skin color. Your thoughts?
01-02-2017 , 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by ToothSayer
The greatest innate prejudice/bigotry in this world is uglism. Ugly people have a horrible time in everything from love to employment to having to endure uglist images all around them. Yet because the left hasn't (yet) deemed that something that it's a moral imperative to fight, it happens all the time and no one bats an eyelid. Even though you're born with it as much as race.

I mean, look at foldn, race warrior, joining in the uglist discussion about "hot" women. He has such bigotry in heart against the ugly minority. As if your worth or importance or interest should be linked to your looks...yet every day, thanks to posts like foldn's, systemic uglism oppresses hundreds of millions of people.
As an ugly dude I gotta agree here lol. It sure can be brutal at times. It's probably 1000 times worse for ugly women :-/
01-02-2017 , 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Jules22
Grunch
The statement AAs react differently when arrested is pretty much racist as it assigns actions based on skin color. Your thoughts?
I don't consider it racist, as its much more of a cultural issue. Black communities tend to foster bad feelings/mistrust towards police, which I think we can all understand why. There are also tendencies to not comply as readily as other groups. These obviously arent absolute, as plenty of other groups can get agitated and argumentative, but it seems like it has the worst repercussions against blacks. It's a problem on both sides, the way they react to cops and the way cops react towards them. Some people will view it as "boot-licking", I do not agree. If I was 6'4 and 240 lbs, jacked, with tattoos, I'd be very aware of how people view me. I think cops are apprehensive towards young black men in general. It's also understandable why.

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Originally Posted by Jules22
As an ugly dude I gotta agree here lol. It sure can be brutal at times. It's probably 1000 times worse for ugly women :-/
It's way, way worse. Ugly guys can and do land decent mates. No one wants an ugly woman. It's a shame.
01-02-2017 , 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by isplashcranberrys
I've seen a bunch of wil's stuff, I found him to be 'politically incorrect', but never spewing hate. Maybe I'm unaware of some huge rant... Just from this thread, I find you're coming off way worse than he is.
this forum has a lot of SJWs that don't leave their computers and are obsessed with racism. it doesn't actually mean anything anymore, it's just a buzzword.
01-03-2017 , 12:59 AM
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Originally Posted by kerowo
You are an idiot. This is the kind of slogans the US was founded on 200+ years ago and obviously pisses off the white supremacists who have been around for about an election cycle. Keep wishcasting bra!
Nope. Not hardly

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Originally Posted by jalfrezi
You just repeating the lies of 2+2's most notorious xenophobe instead of thinking for yourself. Until you start some reasoned critical examination of what people actually post rather than what others say they posted you're not worth responding to.
You said you admired revolutionary dictators like Castro, before they came to power and purged and oppressed their people. Newsflash!!! They were sorry sons of bitches before they got power too.

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Originally Posted by jalfrezi
But locking up innocent people has nothing to do with oppression.

LOL
Nope, not in the context I used. You have 101 people in a room and 100 of them are guilty of murder. You have no idea who the innocent one is. Now, is it better to unleash 100 murderers on a society, or do what is best for the majority of people.

This is why nutjobs eat away at a society. Instead of coming to reasonable, logical conclusions they start using words like oppression,xenophobes, or bull**** phrases like, " This is the kind of slogans the US was founded on 200+ years ago".

Instead of refuting the point, deflect to something else or attack the messenger
01-03-2017 , 02:04 AM
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Originally Posted by nothingbutthefacts
There is no indication the statement is racist since no causation is implicitly or explicitly presented. There are many reasons AA's act differently when arrested, none of which is caused by their skin color and everything to do with external environmental factors, i.e. culture of mistrust for authority within the AA community, which is/was caused by a variety of other external, environmental factors, i.e. racism, which was caused by a variety of other external environmental factors.


I digress, call AA's ******, then call a white person ******, then record the results, then state on a internet forum that black people will typically respond differently to being called ****** and then get called racist for saying AA's react differently when called a bad word. You are not acknowledging the environment is different for AA's, subsequently not acknowledging their experiences are different, consequently not truly understanding why their reactions to different actions are different while denigrating anyone who does acknowledge that AA's react differently for some rather profound understandable reasons that is not caused by their skin color.

Or you could just be a stupid SJW wanting to call people racist...
felt so strongly about it you had to reg and spew a paragraph at me? telling...
01-03-2017 , 02:06 AM
Call me crazy or a sjw, all I want is someone to talk to a person before they get slammed on a car hood and thrown in a cage, no matter what color they are or how attractive they are (lol)
01-03-2017 , 02:10 AM
Sorry for post storm on actual keyboard for once, but the statement "black people react differently when arrested" is definitely biased. Which is a degree of statement ive been trying to encourage because i dont think its such an awful statement when you compare it to "black people are awful and i dont want to be around them"

Biased vs Racist - important if anythings gonna get past screaming. Thanks for allowing me to clarify
01-03-2017 , 02:14 AM
Like in simplest terms I dont want to be judged by other peoples actions because i share a skin color with them and i try to extend that same courtesy to others. So to me a statement that has a blanket effect based on race is at the very least biased.
01-03-2017 , 02:44 AM
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Originally Posted by nothingbutthefacts
There is no indication the statement is racist since no causation is implicitly or explicitly presented. There are many reasons AA's act differently when arrested, none of which is caused by their skin color and everything to do with external environmental factors, i.e. culture of mistrust for authority within the AA community, which is/was caused by a variety of other external, environmental factors, i.e. racism, which was caused by a variety of other external environmental factors.


I digress, call AA's ******, then call a white person ******, then record the results, then state on a internet forum that black people will typically respond differently to being called ****** and then get called racist for saying AA's react differently when called a bad word. You are not acknowledging the environment is different for AA's, subsequently not acknowledging their experiences are different, consequently not truly understanding why their reactions to different actions are different while denigrating anyone who does acknowledge that AA's react differently for some rather profound understandable reasons that is not caused by their skin color.

Or you could just be a stupid SJW wanting to call people racist...
Hello again TS.
01-03-2017 , 01:55 PM
Saying that black people react differently to being arrested is about as racist as saying black people are better at basketball than any other race. Obviously neither statement reflects 100% of the black population, but both could hold some truth based on other factors.
01-03-2017 , 03:19 PM
Obviously it was a joke of a comparison, I was simply stating that neither one is more correct to say than the other. Even though just by reading them it seems one is good and one is bad. I agree with you that acting out while being arrested is more of a cultural/behavioral thing, most likely taught at home, or by the people that are influencing these kids at a young age on a daily basis. But at what point can consistent social problems be addressed as they are, without the PC police and SJW just disregarding the facts and labeling people as they seem fit?
01-03-2017 , 03:22 PM
This guy is sure doing a lot of gymnastics to try to convince us grouping people by skin color is alright. I wasn't even talking to him originally and he went thru the trouble of making an account and checking repeatedly to reply.

I wonder what his motivations might be?
01-03-2017 , 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by wil318466
I honestly don't know what you're trying to say. I speak plainly. I guess I have to ask you to do the same, because I don't understand your point.

Let's try it this way, with yes or no answers.
Sorry to take so long to respond. I somehow managed to have two different projects with important milestones the first week of January and between that and the holiday I was distracted. But now I'm in an airport so I have a little time to kill.

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Originally Posted by wil318466
Is there such thing as white privilege?
Yes.

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Originally Posted by wil318466
Does someone like Malia Obama face challenges due to white privilege?
No*

*I know you said we'd followup afterwards but I don't think it's useful to give this a yes/no answer with no elaboration, so here is some :P

If we understand (following the definitions I linked) white privilege to refer to some definable set of relative advantages or disadvantages tied to race, then theoretically Malia Obama could experience some of the disadvantages of being black. For example, one can imagine a scenario in which she's shopping in a high-end boutique store and the clerk treats her with suspicion because she's black, not knowing who she is. That's an experience a white woman (say one George W. Bush's daughters) wouldn't have faced, even if she were similarly unknown to the clerk.

On the other hand, I take your question to really be asking whether or not Malia Obama is disadvantaged relative to something like "the average white person", and the answer is clearly no. She has other advantages (class and social status, wealth, notoriety) that more than compensate. She's a fairly uniquely privileged person. In other words, "white privilege" isn't the only kind of "privilege".

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Originally Posted by wil318466
Just to be clear - I have no issue with you and I'm not upset about anything, if I came across that way I wanted to clear that up.
Cheers.

      
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