The Zionists simply took over land that was previously someone elses. Though the Egyptians and the Jordanians have come to peaceful terms with Israel.

How about those ruthless Jews who were a part of the Macabee movement, they went around and they forced others to convert to Judaism, thats no different then the stories of groups of past Muslims forcing others to convert to Islam. Why pick on Muslims as much as you do? If you look at history, you will find there were times when Jews mistreated non Jews, there were also times when Muslims mistreated non Muslims. To suggest that Muslims have a history of mistreating jews is wrong, and to use this as an excuse for the Jews taking Israel so they can have a secure homeland, is stupid.

How does one combat Jewish Extremism/Jewish Terror?

We always hear about Islamic terrorism, what about Jewish terrorism?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zionist_political_violence

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Defense_League

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_religious_terrorism


Gamblor, do you think that it is Antisemitic to talk about Jewish terrorists? While I would not consider the majority of Jews to be terrorists, its safe to say that there are some Jewish terrorists.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sergeants_affair

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semiramis_Hotel_bombing

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_David_Hotel_bombing

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cave_of...archs_massacre

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_Te...entre_shooting

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eden_Natan-Zada

I feel that Israeli Jews and Palestinians in general, are morally equal, do you agree with this Gamblor? Obv I listed a # of Jewish terror attacks above,

If there is a such thing as Islamic terror, there is without a doubt, Jewish terror. Israels of the past used terrorism to get what they want, and today, Palestinians perform acts of Terror to get what they want. Hopefully this ISIL group can get both Israels and Palestinians to realize they have a common enemy.

The thing is you cant change a religious persons mind with logic. That what makes a religion being twisted like Islam is so dangerous. If Islamic radicals ever are able to use a weapon of mass destruction on Israel or the States kiss your ass goodbye.

Yea pretty sure they'll never figure that out. The middle east was at the pinnacle of society before islam hit. Don't see them magically figuring out how to launch a nuke.

17 years old and/or a troll.

Maccabees, yeah. The Jews have a long history of forcing conversions. Uh huh. For a Catholic defending Muslims and attacking Jews, forced conversions is not a strong point.

I think teenager and/or troll is most likely...mostly because I don't want to believe a full grown adult can be that stupid.

Im in my mid twenties. And unlike the con artists itt, I publicly state that Islam, Judaism, and Christianity are religions of peace.

And wow, so if your upset at myself mentioning Jewish terrorists, and forced conversations by Jews, you have a long, long way to go. These days its Muslims who face unusual criticism, and for you to complain about valid criticism of Jews is uncalled for. Either one can be critical of Jews and Muslims, or one should be critical of neither.

You dont agree with the view that Muslims have a history of treating Jews poorly, do you? To agree with this is to smack Muslims in the face. I also feel that to suggest that Jews have a history of treating non Jews poorly is a smack in the face to Jews. If I'm missing something here please tell me.

Here's Joe.

Joe also has documented the historical treatment of Jews by Muslim pre-Westphalian states and other political entities in Egypt, Persia, the Arab peninsula, all on the basis that Muslims rule and Jews, while capable and to be protected, are also inferior and the "other".

Despite that, Joe doesn't judge anyone he meets here in the 21st century without getting to know them. As a result, his friends come from a wide variety of backgrounds, religions, nationalities. He is open to the concept that any person is capable of good and/or bad, and therefore carries no preconceptions about them based on their religion or nationality or ethnicity.

Is Joe an Islamophobe?

You must live a very sheltered life. Did you know that George W Bush was president for 8 years?

This is a load of nonsense. It's entirely about the practitioners and how they choose to interpret it. It's very easy to make the Christian Bible into either a tool for peace or a tool for war, but either way requires choosing to ignore or discount other parts where it says opposite things.

George who? When it comes to the news, I glance at the headlines just to get kind of a flavor, but I rarely read the stories.

You're wasting your time.

I'm really upset about all this Maccabee bashing.

Briefly: Born 1599 in Huntingdon, near where I live. Became Member of Parliament for Cambridge and when King Charles I wanted to keep absolute power over Parliament and went to war with them, helped by the Scots, Cromwell raised an army, took charge, and won. Charles was tried and beheaded.

Oliver Cromwell refused the offer from Parliament to be King and...the following is lifted from the internet:

"At home Lord Protector Cromwell reorganised the national church, established Puritanism, readmitted Jews into Britain and presided over a certain degree of religious tolerance. Abroad, he ended the war with Portugal (1653) and Holland (1654) and allied with France against Spain, defeating the Spanish at the Battle of the Dunes (1658). Cromwell died on 3 September 1658 in London. After the Restoration his body was dug up and hanged."

Basically winning the civil war was the moment when Parliament assumed priority over the Monarch. Of course there was and still is, debate over whether he was a 'good' bloke or not. Same as any politician. But there is little doubt that what he did was, in his view, for the good of the country. The same could not have been said for many of the Kings and Queens prior to that.

He bears responsibility for the brutal persecution of Catholics during the reconquest of Ireland so it's tough to paint him as tolerant. Many people claim that the British pursued a deliberate policy of ethnic cleansing during that campaign and Cromwell is still a notorious figure in Ireland today.

I heard that the King of the Jews just cancelled Hanukkah due to this thread.

You were banned you should accept your ban and do this elsewhere.

Fwiw (and I have no interest in addressing kid directly), very few posters are anti-Jewish in the sense that they have something against Jewish people.

Also, criticism of Israel is not anti-Jewish.

But that doesn't stop Israel from advancing a manufactured hysteria in which any criticism of Israel, a racist state whose atrocious crimes have been well documented by several human rights organizations, is equated to antisemitism. It's gone so far that the newly appointed chief of public diplomacy of Israel, Ran Baratz, recently called Obama (who when he isn't proclaiming his commitment to a Jewish ethnic supremacy in Israel through a "Jewish state", is giving boatloads of bullets to Israel for to shoot more Palestinian civilians) "the modern face of antisemitism".

I call it hysteria but you kind of have to wonder if beyond laughable claims of antisemitism (which follow the I/P discussion throughout the world and right into this forum) are genuinely related to the palpable hysteria which seems more organically related to pure hatred, the antisemitism claims being some kind of cover that is too toxic for people to touch.

cuz site is owned by a Jew pretty sure

Also,

lmao