Whaddya do with a party that would rather lose elections than break with Wall Street and permanent war? That's my reading of Thomas Perez becoming head of the Democratic National Committee over the Bernie Sanders ally.

NYT, on how Perez became a candidate after Bernie Bro Keith Ellison became the front runner:

Thomas Perez is a former Secretary of Labor, hence the memory of the Sopranos episode where it is revealed that Tony is working with a union "militant" to threaten strikes and shake down contractors.

In the last presidential race, the Democratic Party used bureaucratic process to nominate the candidate who turns off voters -- Clinton -- rather than the one who fills stadiums. That's because the stadiums were filled by promising to go after the old guard's base -- Wall Street and war. Now they are intent on doing it again.

I recall that in 2012, the GOP swept Arkansas. But raising the state minimum wage won with 65% of the vote.

Fight an actual class war and the votes will come.

Alright, let's hear it. What has Perez done where he has shown himself to be an enemy of the middle and working classes. All I keep hearing about is that he has been a strong consumer and labor advocate. Let's see the dirt on him. Is he secretly in favor of Right to Work laws? Does he support banning Muslims from entering the United States? Like what exactly about this guy is so hard-right, because I'm not picking it up--all I'm getting from these complaints are Bernie Bros whining, yet again, that they lost in a completely fair and a straight-up process. Get the **** over yourselves, and get with the program. You're part of the problem.

No one says he's Right to Work and I'm sure he's not. So what do you do when all the candidates say they support motherhood and apple pie?

You predict which one will actually go in the kitchen and start peeling apples.

With Perez, we know he was nominated explicitly to block the wing of the party that wants to win by attacking privilege.

He's from the old guard whose strategy is to compete for the middle through moderation rather than mobilize the people who are working three jobs at minimum wage.

Here he explicitly tacks center in an attack on Sanders in Nevada last February:



Are you talking about the DNC vote or the Democratic nomination for president?

And you thought that snippet was worthy of comparing him to Tony Soprano? Really?

No, the Soprano reference was blatant sensationalism. A pre-snippet cheapshot related purely to his being Labor Sec. I hope I'm not violating site rules .

Okay so I probably flew off the handle at you a bit. I'm just so tired of this infighting between the center and the left. We can't afford it right now. I would love to see a further left party but to do that requires a strong system of labor unions which can build a jackpot up to fight people like the Koch Bros. Perez really doesn't seem that bad to me, I personally would've voted for Ellison but we are the big tent party, and sometimes that means you're not gonna like the things that happen at every level of the party.

My hot take was essentially 'divide from people for parties at your own risk in this climate'.

The democrats should realize that they can't afford not to change. They attempted to put a reviled criminal into power. The Hillary Clinton campaign itself shows a deep level of dysfunction. This is a party now built to accelerate just about every vile program in the world. It's been taken over by the extremely aggressive parasites. You should get it through your head that more of the same is a non-starter.

Advertising false solidarity just makes you look more republican. No one serious cares what you would love. What you are willing to do is all that matters.

Bernie raised enough money with unions where they are. Trump spent hardly anything. Jeb spent a fortune and was laughed out of the race. This is a new day. No more hiding behind discredited dogmas which justify the need to sellout.

If more people like you had the agency to leave the party I doubt it would have come to this. But it has. I think you offer some good advice above. And I think it is good for you as well. The first step of you taking your own advice is to leave.the.party. Fighting a class war means fighting the democratic party.

lol einbert

I think the poor and working class are going to have to stage their own coup' of sorts to take back all levels of Government, through organizational methods that subvert the corporate state. If half the workforce in the U.S. all left their jobs and started co-ops where decision making was done horizontally, through Direct Democracy, and all workers got equal pay, it would subvert the power structure we live under, and radical change, for the good of the poor and working class, would happen imo.