Also notice that when I pointed out you weren't even listening to the one person you said you could listen to you went off on a tangent about everyone else being mean to you and didn't address the question at all. That is very typical behavior from you, not just with the comprehension issue but also things about modding, choices, other topics in general.

Here is my proposed plan:

Once a day I will bump this thread with all the posts that mention spank or criticize a spank decision.

Then, as crowd we can carefully discern the specific qualities of the posts.

Or, we can let them add up and look back later for patterns. Or we can ignore it all.

I will omit screen names from the posts, as the idea is not to attack, defend, or cast blame, but to become better informed on both sides of the issue.

I'll start with little or no commentary or criticism of these posts for the first few weeks, and let the collection of posts gather each day and give an opportunity for all the other posters to speak about them.

After some time we can come back as see how specific instances turned out.

We can also do this exercise backwards by using pasts posts, but progressing forward instead seems more fruitful in my opinion.

Honestly, that seems like a waste of your time.

As opposed to his normal ten hours of trolling this forum?

Well especially if he wants to troll. Going thru and getting all the posts and putting them here with no commentary isn't going to bother anyone.

Not a personal attack, but I have made requests to joe on this issue, but nobody can explain why his inability to deal with requests honorably is a bigger problem than I talk funny sometimes.

It will be interesting to see how all his posts about my writing adds up.

It's not his business, he has been asked to stop.

I don't take it personally to keep asking him to stop and keep providing reasoning and information that supports my opinion of his behavior.

I really want to help joe be able to cooperate with me , and I with him. so the forum doesn't get disrupted by how he expresses his opinion of my personal attribute.

Prove your opinion that I am trolling has merit beyond your own opinion and ability to repeat it.

I mean, it is my business if you're trying to talk to me and I have no clue what you're trying to say. I'm not asking what issues cause it, I'm asking you to clarify, or try to state another way so I can understand. I don't see how that is a bad thing.

Like when you ask me to stop does that mean I shouldn't ask what you mean and instead just ignore you because I can't understand you?

I participate in this community despite the fact a few posters ( who are in this thread) have chosen to persistently attempt to punish me and my reputation for it, out of their own shared, auto-repeatable opinion.

If your idea of a fun weekend is making fun of the guy who talks funny on the internet after repeated requests to stop, well....

What are you made of?

I'm not sure how to make it any clearer, and you seem to keep ignoring what I'm saying.

Asking you to clarify something when we're having a discussion isn't making fun of you. It's telling you that I don't understand what you're trying to say and can't give an accurate response.

Like of you think I'm trying to make fun of you in this conversation here then I don't know what to say to that other than I'm not.

Nothing personal....

Really, you all just had bad luck of coming to a mutual combat forum and having moves which are beatable.

One little r-word who talks funny can demolish your whole card-house , because you made it from weak-sauce like derision, accusation, and mockery.

That is the weaker and more limited argument style and your ideas are very criticizable.

You make the mistake of thinking you are insulting a person, who instead of becoming insulted, simple became more informed and better prepared to adapt to that combat style.

You want war, you better be the better artist at waging it.

This is what I'm talking about Spank. I'm trying to have a non adversarial conversation with you and you're getting ridiculously defensive and going off the deep end about insults and going to war and whatever else.

I haven't insulted you in any of these posts. That reply is completely nonsensical with regards to this conversation.

Like, it's not worth even bothering to try and talk to you about it anymore.

Can anyone explain to joe how, after months and months of him not listening to requests to stop, it is fairly reasonable that whatever he is trying to say about my writing now is very likely unappealing to me- as he has not stopped.

Maybe chez can help restate any of joe's future commentary about my writing to me, if he thinks is advice that is worth reasonable discussion.

I really have nothing personal against joe.

I'm just for something personal about me that he seems to want to openly discuss and effect my reputation, even after I have said stop.

In response to that previous post of mine the was re- posted.

It is accurate and correct that I am capable of mutual communication with any educated person.

It's a weird observation to make in smack-talk form.

Your posting style does more to hurt your reputation than anything I've ever said to you. I'm trying to show you why that's the case and help and you're talking about insults (there were none) and war (lol wat?).

I'm fine with just pointing and laughing if you don't want to actually discuss it but I was taking you seriously when you said you wanted to have an actual conversation about it. I see now that was just a lie and you'd rather convince yourself that we're all just trying to be mean and there isn't really an issue (even though you've seemingly admitted there is something going on).

It just really makes no sense how invite the conversation and then freak out when I try to have a normal talk with you.

Seriously, you really, really, really need to stop writing these kinda rhetorical questions. Everything anyone wants to express in English using rhetorical questions can better be expressed with simple direct statements.

Let's try to decode this pack o' gibberish.

Well somewhere in that word salad, it seems you feel you are subject to ill-formed criticisms. Of course, you couldn't find room in your 23 words to identify (a) what is being criticized, (b) what those criticisms are, or (c) why you feel they are ill-informed. Right there you're leaving your readers to guess WTF you're talking about. I'm going to guess it's "criticisms of how you write". So, step #1, let's work that change into your post, and as a simple stand-alone sentence.

OK, well at least there's now a little actual meaning in that word salad. Further trying to decode the jabber, it seems you are trying to express that you have previously rejected these criticisms. So, step #2, let's change your post, factoring out this as another stand-alone simple sentence...

OK, now let's try implementing thechef's advice, and edit for length. Why did you include both 'criticisms' and 'opinions' in your post? Once again, you're leaving your readers to guess. I'm going to guess no reason... you just, for some bizarre reason, like padding your posts out with meaningless words and phrases. Step #3, let's remove this part...

OK, getting better. Now let's try implementing my advice, and avoid rhetorical questions. What you're really trying to say is that you're not going to accept this criticism simply because it's repeated. So step #4, rephrase your statement as a statement...

See... now isn't that better ??

.This silver lining on this matter is that unchained freedom with call and response has given me lots of opportunity to write. Writing is most useful in my long-term strategy to practice and develop the best use of my writing capabilities.


And also to see the people who don't agree with stuff like making this thread or carrying on and on about it month after month.

It's not a herd scenario in any absolute sense. Several posters share variations of an opinion and express it in certain styles and ways.

So it's really out of my hands. If these few posters want to do something else with their time, we can all walk away.

If not, I do not take it personally and it seems fair to expect my choice of response to their posts are taken in kind.

Either way -I am making lemonade out of these lemons and there is enough for everybody !!!!!

I don't mean to sound like a broken clock about how to solve problems, but this thread's problem is best solved with time.

So I'm encouraging everyone to get back to the weekend!

Take your own advice. Step away from the keyboard.

It's best served with you actually taking the advice you say you wanted and not flying off the handle when it's offered.

He clearly fears for losing the vice-like grip he currently maintains on this forum.

The tides of change are coming,and he is not a happy wookie

He's got no worries from my end, I'm a benevolent admin.

What do broken clocks sound like?

Like my glorious plans for what I want to do tomorrow.