I just find it weird that you claim to be a victim somehow when you're the only one I've known to do what you did.

Does calling you Alex bother you? I see referring to your old screen name in a response way different than running a smear campaign on a posters name or taking that name and using it in a way you wouldn't want.

AlexM is certainly a lot more generic than adanthar. AlexM, pro poker player, is not nearly so generic though.

I think you're suggesting that by hopping to his defence I further galvanise the pack and so it's counter productive? If that's what you're getting at, I see what you're saying, but I think everybody was all over him anyway. Not sure how I could have made it any worse.

I didn't speak up with the expectation of changing people's minds. I just think it's generally a good thing to point this sort of stuff out.

Also, I completely disagree with the "not pack mentality, we just happen to all agree on this one subject" narrative. This has obviously blown up into something much bigger than it deserves to be and the explanation for that is pack mentality.

They do but we're not seriously comparing the two are we.

There's the approach apart from the PC issue. No mod is having a vote to constrain someone dropping n bombs to their own thread

I see calling you Alex when talking to you no different than calling Shame Trolly Missledog or anais/Low Key by the name he's not currently posting on. I dunno, maybe I'm wrong but people get referred to by old screen names all the time here.

You are free to see it how you like, and I am free to see the people who keep doing it as scumbags and hypocrites. It doesn't really bother me, but only because I don't expect any better out if the people doing it. I suppose it bothers me that the mods don't care, but my expectations on that front have been in free fall for a while as well, so not a lot.

Alex, poker player

Generic enough?

Not sure anyone would believe Alex is a pro, by any reasonable definition of the word.

Ok, but those aren't their real names, and they didn't switch specifically so people would stop using their real names, so its not exactly the same.

If you claimed that you had a neurological exhalation usage capability, then it would be perfectly acceptable for everyone to happen to independently come to the conclusion that you should use breath mints or stop breathing on people so much.

Well, we all agree was wrong mainly because it's not even close to all. I disagree that it's some sort of pack mentality when a lot of people call someone out, even over a long period of time, when they're going out of their way to be a terrible poster. I mean, lots of people get jumped on for one reason or another around here and it usually subsides when they're done posting bad or making terrible arguments (there are since notable exceptions though)

You think the mods should care we refer to you by your old screen name?

To be honest I think this is just a performance to deflect the criticism of what you did. Like a 'hey I apologized for that but you're doing it right now to me!' type of thing where they aren't even close to the same thing.

People routinely try to run from bad posting by coming up with a new name, I think it's a benefit to know who people used to be but I'm also really bad at remembering posting styles and old names for the most part so I let others figure that out.

Do I think mods should care if you use my real name? I dunno, they do for everyone else. You see it as my old screen name. I see it as using my real name.

And if you seriously think I care enough about something that happened 8 years ago to try to deflect criticism of it, you're delusional. The fact that you want to hold a grudge over something from that long ago just adds fuel to the "you're crazy" fire as far as I'm concerned.

I understand that people try to run from bad posting by switching screen names. But you should also realize that I've never thought of myself as a bad poster, even if you do, so that's not exactly likely to be my motivation, is it?

You have an odd definition of holding a grudge, I'm just pointing out the timing of when you started to complain about people calling you Alex.

I don't think you did it to run from the name, you've always seemed to have a few accounts. Which is part of the reason I find it odd you're claiming to be running from the name now. If that makes sense lol

More acceptable to use the person specific olfactory suppressant.

Why would someone suddenly choose to accept previously rejected, ill- informed criticisms/opinions just because they have been repeated x amount additional more times?

The criticism is often only worthy of ignoring but you would accept what even with the best will in the world your posts can be awkward to understand?

Mine too but you're more wordy than me.

Could you elaborate or restate your point for me so I can help understand better?

Asking for clarity.

It is simple, easy, mutually beneficial.

Better than mockery, derision. mistrustful accusations, and all the rest of the failed repetitive behavior of the past.

I've been writing on the internet since the BBS days and this last summer was the first time I encountered massive group criticism of my ability to use language.

It's just weird that the same critics of my language usage also have a long list of other items they criticized me about.

At one time I joked it these few persistent critics were using a "wheel of accusation" to decide how they were going to pile on from one post to the next.

So, I actually have reasonable doubt my writing is a real problem to some people who speak about it, as they have shown to have much bigger problems themselves.

It is unfortunate that a person's communication ability has been made a popular laughing stock for months and months.

How should I take any unchained joker besides chezlaw seriously about it?

Well you aren't even taking him seriously.

We can even go to the tape and see how these few posters disagreed with something else I did ITF recently, and they came here to add this issue on top that. Plus their other ongoing, chronic, unreconcilable disagreements.

So much of these few posters over-all behavior has added up to this point, it is like a monument to what trolls really do.

If we made a scale of behavior which deserves criticism over time.....

...why does my language issue rank higher than other people's behavior towards me on the issue?

I gotta say, that was a good post. A bit wordy but much better than usual and I understood all of it.

But it's not simply the way you use words that's the issue. It's that people often can't understand you, and let you know, you go off on 3-4 posts about how they're derisive or accusatory or mocking or really lose it and start personally attacking them. It's your reaction to people letting you know you're hard to understand a lot of the time that's also the issue.