No person who has any experience in the politics forums can make the "spank is getting bullied" argument with a hint of credibility. At best you're a complete idiot, at worst you're a troll and you've got a March 2015 join date so I've got a pretty good guess.

Nah, you're just so wrapped up in this that you can't see when bullying is bullying. No context required.

It's 100% bullying, but it's also 100% acceptable here.

It's worth more than generalizing. But,

Briefly,

bullying can be criticized as openly and easily as any other posting behavior ITF.

I like the approach, and like that you did it so I didn't have to.

My take is that it is similar as someone who gets yelled at because they have simple chronic halitosis. You mention binaca to be kind, and then, when they refuse to use it, end up piling on because the issue isn't their halitosis, it is their unwillingness to use breath enhancers.

Or, more simply, it isn't harder to say, "I have mentioned that I am working on my writing skills" than "I have been outspoken about practicing personal behavior improvement of my writing." That isn't (to extend the metaphor) simple chronic halitosis; it is purposefully putting poop in one's mouth and breathing at people on purpose.

Not anymore

Why do you say that? Nothing has changed but the mods.

Just because bullies can get shut down because bullying behavior is an over-all failure, it doesn't mean they can no longer try.

A forum is not for personal attacks when the mod is deleting/changing personal attacks. You changed the title of a thread because the dude didn't like being criticised in the title of a thread. You changed another thread because of your own agenda. I'm sure I'm missing other stuff, and this is just the beginning.

So no, this forum is not still for personally attacking others. A worst posters tournament now needs your approval apparently. Not that I care because a forum for personal attacks is worthless anyway and was only ever good for me wasting time instead of studying, but let's call this for what it is. This forum is now a place for you to unleash your sensitivities on everyone else, and for you to feel good about rescuing scumbags from being criticised. I wonder what the chances of you not deleting the worst posters tournament is if you are leading in votes?

Well you seem to think your opinion of my decisions reigns supreme and forms the conditions that no more personal attacks are allowed(which is incorrect).

My take is your opinion equal to all other opinions as well as mine. You are entitled to it, but it doesn't change my decisions or influence me to consider out weighing my fair rationales.

I am here if you have any personal requests about your screen name for me to consider. It's not a difficult situation to sort out.

Spank translation: your opinion about my modding is incorrect, you're entitled to your opinion but it won't change how I mod this place. Let me know if you have any requests.

As I said, you should read 'Politics and the English Language' with a printout of your posts to study. This is honest advice. Saying 'you seem to think your opinion of my decisions reigns supreme and forms the conditions....' is verbose, and it is because of that kind of writing that this thread exists.

My only request is for you to one touch ban and clean my account, or change my screen name.

I accept your opinion, but it doesn't persuade me from mine.

For the record I've asked Spank to clarify a number of times and he just gets defensive and accuses me of derision and accusations and something something language use capabilities. Asking him to clarify does no good.

Joe, I did not previously recognize your apparent concern and need for an explanation as to why I would simply ask you to stop targeting my language use capability.

No offense, but I found you unfriendly and intrusive toward me on the matter. I welcome a chance to start over and clear out any misunderstandings of offensiveness or defensiveness which may have unilaterally or mutually occurred.

Do you have a problem with me communicating my personal boundaries to you in the future if the need arises. My intention is do so in a polite and firm manner. I understand people forget.

Like this one:

Just for the record, I don't believe this whole 'language use capability' excuse at all. Not one little bit. One big reason is that you aren't even trying to do better. Not at all.

For one easy example, it's been mentioned that you should stop using the phrase 'my language use capability'. Try substituting, for example, the phrase 'the way I write'. Let's see how that looks...

Better?

It is objectively better to us native in English. But ( serious question), do you, yourself perceive it as better?

Because if you do... then why are you insisting on continuing to use the clunker phrase 'my language use capability'. The fact that you don't change, and ignore constructive advice like thechef gave you... well, it tells me you're FOS.

Speaking of the advice thechef gave you... did you make any effort to go through what you wrote, and edit it for length? Obviously not. To be more blunt: just don't try to write compound sentences.

And here, I'll give you the second key to getting out of your self-imposed gibberish dungeon. The first being don't go off into the compound-clause ozone. Try to make direct statements.

The second is this: don't try to ask rhetorical questions. In fact, only ask direct questions to particular posters, and questions that have real answers. Try to remove almost all '?'s from your posts.

Hope this helps. Good luck.

Once I read an mistrustful accusation about it, I stopped reading. Can someone tell me any worthwhile advice in shame trolly's post after the I don't trust that person part?

It's like we need a third party or need to start over and agree to act like we each have a human boundaries which maybe different and but not necessarily unreconcilable.

Think about over the weekend? It's easy to just take a break than go in circles of mistrust and other stuff I just don't find persuasive.

Or just stop getting defensive and read the post?

Does it bother anyone else that Mat essentially gets drunk and plays evil God by just ****ing with us for the sake of doing so?

I'm not defensive, I'm using discrimination.

The first move is on the sender of mistrust signals. I am not defensive of mistrust, I just want to operate out of some trust. A signal of strong mistrust tells me may not find mutual satisfaction to come to an agreement.

It seems better to stop and say ' hey this is something we can work out first and try to proceed with some trust that bad posters will be named and even Mat knows how to ban.

So my next step if it seems stuck on mistrust is to suggest giving it time. See if any trust develops that any people can build from to something new.

That's open, not defensive nor offensive, IMO.

I'd clap for him if he actually entered a room I was in.

Dude, I'm not discussing 'bad posters will be named', or whatever, ITT. I was giving you advice on how to write better.

I don't need to trust you to give you writing advice. Take it or leave it. My advice isn't going to change over time. You, OTOH might not take my advice because you don't trust me. Your mistrust might evaporate over time. Who knows?

Well this is my thread about writing and communication now. Time for something not completely different but a live 'spanktehbadwookie wookie' ( the poster ) communication thought experiment': (

I have a new derivative internet communication concept that I am calling 'model train-wrecking.'

Rather than train-wrecking a users real life, a model train wreck works on a person's anonymous screen name. It is not always considered morally dubious. It is does on purpose as a social punishment tool in some circumstances.

A model train wreck can involve elements of a smear campaign and screen name targeting. Use with care on a mutual combat environment or risk an offensive, defensive, or an open response that is not as funny and it can be serious.

This is because people have various causes and interests to a screen name reputation and it is dignified to stand up for a fair shot at a new reputation and it is dignified to stop doing something another person asked which they take as important, even if it is funny.

It seems reasonable that a clear line is set when a person asks for it to stop. Please let me off the train at the next station. Some people want safety words is one analogy that doesn't involve constitutional law.

People who are trolling at this point may face stiff arguments from witnesses as well as targets if they persist. Depending on the mix of the community interest and variety of viewpoints.

Does alternate verbiage already exist to describe this prototype concept?

Is it a funny joke to ask if you would google about it for me?

If it does that for you, you're taking this place too seriously.

I'm not sure exactly what you mean by the smear campaign but I'd be incredibly careful doing something like this (and I mean don't do it) because as we learned from the Alex/Adanthar thing people sometimes use their screen name for real life activities.

This threw even the spankslater into an infinite loop

You are tragic